• Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    30·
    6 days ago

    My mid-range gaming PC from 2019 had 16gb, and I was looking at some new pre-builts and saw many still only have 16. Is there just not much need for more, or what? It’s cheap - I might double what I’ve got in DDR4 for $50.

    • Psythik@lemm.ee
      35·
      6 days ago

      If you’re doing a new PC then I’d aim for 32GB.

      16GB is enough, yes, but for how much longer? It’s been the norm for awhile now, which means that soon it won’t be enough.

      • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        6 days ago

        sort of what I was thinking. I only hit the limit when I have way too many tabs open while playing an intensive game, but it’s a cheap upgrade that might keep me in this PC for a few more years.

      • De Lancre@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 days ago

        I would say, that 16gb is barely enough, if you planning gaming. UE5 games can easily fill up that, so if you wanna have game recording or browser in background, then above 16 is mandatory. Maybe at least 24gb.

    • SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world
      151·
      6 days ago

      I have 32gb and I always suggest others to get that much as a baseline theses days. I rarely ever use anywhere close to the full 32gb, but I am often times at or near 16gb in use. The main benefit of having 32gb is in my case I’ll basically never be hitting the pagefile, but if you only had 16gb you’ll probably rarely max out on ram usage, but you’ll probably be hitting the pagefile more often.

      With the proliferation of fast SSDs and NVME drives hitting the pagefile is considerably less impactful than it use to be with spinning disks, but it’s still slower than RAM.

      • SuiXi3D@fedia.io
        16·
        6 days ago

        Depends on the game and what you’re doing with it. Cities: Skylines with a bunch of mods really struggles without a load of RAM. Playing Vintage Story recently, I installed a bunch of mods. Had to uninstall about half to come in under 32GB utilization.

        • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
          1·
          5 days ago

          Beam.ng drive with 79 mods can use up to 20 to 28gb RAM. Even at 30 to 40 mods it’ll pull 10 to 17gb RAM. A few programs open and a browser can eat 10 to 16gb. 16gb is the new standard. 32 should be the baseline though. 64 plus is overkill right now.

      • Engywook@lemm.ee
        4·
        6 days ago

        With 16 GB ram I can perfectly virtualize W11 giving 8 GB ram to the guest (on a Linux host), so yes, for normal use 16 GB is perfectly fine.

      • UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        41·
        5 days ago

        I would say 16 GB is the bare minimum. Oblivion for example needs about 10 GB, If you have discord, your Browser, and 1-2 other programs running in the background simultaneously, you will easily reach your limit.

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
        1·
        5 days ago

        Not really. 16 gigs is like the base amount of VRAM on the new 5xxx series nvidia GPU’s, and you probably want more RAM than VRAM in your rig…

    • 3DMVR@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      5 days ago

      getting into 3d art is a regret lowkey, I was fine with my specs before they felt op even

      I was into vr too, I was like damn this laptops a beast now im constantly struggling

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      2·
      5 days ago

      I’ve recently really gotten into 3d printing, and I’ve bought the bullet and purchased a pretty nice 3D scanner (Crealty Raptor Pro).

      There’s no such thing as too much enough RAM for these scans.

  • Dimi Fisher@lemmy.world
    7·
    5 days ago

    I remember not long ago showing my linux desktop on reddit and everybody was going crazy because I was still using Firefox and Chrome is the browser to use nowdays and all that crap, I guess times have changed for the better, and yes I still use firefox

    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      4·
      5 days ago

      I started to use firefox back in 2007.

      I have never changed back. If someday there’s a better alternative I’d switch. But sure thing that chromium based browsers are not an alternative.

  • suicidaleggroll@lemm.eeEnglish
    81·
    5 days ago

    I’d be in trouble, since between ZFS and my various VMs, my system idles at ~170 GB RAM used. With only 32 I’d have to shut basically everything down.

    My previous system had 64 GB, and while it wasn’t great, I got by. Then one of the motherboard slots died and dropped me to 48 GB, which seriously hurt. That’s when I decided to rebuild and went to 256.

    • jaschen@lemm.ee
      1·
      5 days ago

      Real question. Doesn’t the computer actually slow down when you have that much memory? Doesn’t the CPU need to seek into a bigger vast vs a smaller memory set?

      Or is this an old school way of thinking?

      • IHawkMike@lemmy.world
        3·
        5 days ago

        No that’s not how it works. Handling a larger address space (e.g., 32-bit vs 64-bit) maybe could affect speed between same sized modules on a very old CPU but I’m not sure that’s even the case by any noticeable margin.

        The RA in RAM stands for random access; there is no seeking necessary.

        Technically at a very low level size probably affects speed, but not to any degree you’d notice. RAM speed is actually positively correlated with size, but that’s more because newer memory modules are both generally both bigger and faster.

      • suicidaleggroll@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        That’s a complicated question. Bigger memory can split it between more banks, which can mean more precharge penalties if the memory you need to access is spread out between them.

        But big memory systems generally use workstation or server processors, which means more memory channels, which means the system can access multiple regions of memory simultaneously. Mini-PCs and laptops generally only have one memory controller, higher end laptops and desktops usually have two, workstations often have 4, and big servers can have 8+. That’s huge for parallel workflows and virtualization.

  • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    6 days ago

    Run our of RAM, apparently.

    A few containers, a bunch of IDE windows with large work spqces and a dozen or two browser tabs add up. At least I can follow my “workflow” of doing three things at more or less the same as time

  • Vopyr@lemmy.world
    6·
    5 days ago

    Well, I don’t think I need that much RAM, but it’s a funny joke, modern browsers consume an insane amount of RAM.

  • SuiXi3D@fedia.io
    5·
    6 days ago

    Buy 32 more and lollygag on actually installing it, if my recent actions have proven anything.