cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29061644

We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!

Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover

We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.

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    We have a basic rule that the headline must match the article. Current headline reads:

    “Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson”

    I’ll give you a fair shot to correct it before just removing it.

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      Done. Only because I respect you.

      It doesn’t make sense that rule. But you’ll disagree anyway and there’s never a chance of winning a mod argument anyway.

      The article headline you want is pointless and meaningless to the 99% of the world who visits this.

      Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson

      I added context and a little bit of juice to it so it would make for a better headline for non-Australians. Did I add some anti Trump sentiment? Sure. Did that misconstrue the content of the article? No.

      I understand the current rule makes it easy to mod the place, but it also means you don’t let the OP add context for Lemmy. The rule should be: you can’t misconstrue the content of the article.

      Anyway, I appreciate all you mods do and I respect the rules that are in place.

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        6 hours ago

        Thanks @kingofras@lemmy.world ! I know the rules are a pain, but really it helps prevent shitposting. Imagine coming into a community and just seeing variations on “xxx is a dumbass/shithead/etc. etc.” all the way down. :)

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            1 hour ago

            Ty! Makes a bit more sense as it does giver context. The ‘booting to the curb’ was a bit editorialized. But if like me, you have no idea who Dutton and Dickson are it’s a lot clearer.

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        12 hours ago

        I disagree.

        Not modifying headings is a fairly universal rule.

        Making it “easier to mod” is an understatement. If you let people “adapt titles to be more suitable for lemmy” or whatever you did, then you’ll spend all day having arguments about what adoptions are appropriate. It’s unworkable with volunteer mods.

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          11 hours ago

          It’s so pathetic that the top comment chain is discussing this pedantic issue instead of the actual article. Thank god for this moderation or my experience may have been slightly degraded.

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            11 hours ago

            It’s a pretty fundamental aspect of content aggregators. If posters editorialise the articles they post it becomes an echochamber for a very confined range of opinions.

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              Counterpoint. I posted an article from the Australian national broadcaster. They have their flaws but they aint breitbart.

              While I sensationalised the title and added my 2 cents in the original OP I cross posted to this community, I linked to a nice source and created a more world context friendly title, yet far from disingenuous click bait.

              The upvotes and the comments are largely based on that.

              What this rule is currently accomplishing:

              • people will just post sensationalist sources with clickbaity titles and questionable journalism
              • or people will create sensationalist titles for neutral higher quality sources and then the top comment is always going to be about this level of virtue signalling.

              What’s the point of a community if these are the rules? You’re asking for bad sources and at best or you’re just a comment section provider for legacy media.

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                10 hours ago

                Why has everyone started saying “counterpoint” all of a sudden. Every comment is a counterpoint.

                Counterpoint. Hopefully people aren’t idiots that upvote sensational headlines.

                Counterpoint. Everything I already said.

                Counterpoint. You could make your own community where people sensationalise headlines.

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      14 hours ago

      Just remove it.

      People who do this shit are actively making this place worse.

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        Lol “the people actually making content are the problem” y’all are fucking clowns.

        Can we just be loose with the moderation while the “top” posts don’t even get 2k upvotes.

        It gave lemmy content, it led to engaging discussions, who tf cares if the title is bad.

        Jesus Christ I don’t understand this mentality

        You’ve made 3 posts in 2 years, op contributed to more fediverse in a day than you did in two years.

        You really want to make this place better, then quit your bitchin or contribute more and your bitchin will be more understandable

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          Editorialized titles distract from the content. There’s enough crazy ass shit happening globally that the added sensationalism isn’t necessary.

          Either way, maybe calm down a bit lmao.

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        13 hours ago

        At your service.

        That’s what I thought about you when I read your message.

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          Man fuck em, thank you for adding to the fediverse OP! You should look at non .world communities. .world is the more shitty instance filled with “um actually…” Style users and mods

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    7 hours ago

    Bravo to the Australian voters. However, you should have purchased the submarines from the French.

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    22 hours ago

    While I’m extremely happy about the election results, let’s not forget that the Conservatives were on track to sweep before Trump shit the bed so badly that the entire world had to hold its nose.

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        Significantly partially. In January Dutton started to style himself after Trump, even going so far as getting tips from the GOP, after Trump’s win. However by mid-March Dutton was trying to backpedal rapidly but it was too late. Clearly not all his staff got the memo (esp Jacinta Price… oh dear) and everything he did or said could be met with a variation of “hold on, last week you were saying x”.

        Also I’d like to once again say thanks to the founders that gave us compulsory, preferential voting.

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    I hate the fact that it had to be the US that fell to these fascists… but at least it put the rest of the world on notice.

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    I’m glad our fuck up in the US is inspiring others to step back from the edge. It’s at least a silver lining I can console myself with while everything crumbles around me.

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        Man the fact that we’re at the stage of posting an image with a caption within a frame on a wall within a picture within a comment within a forum is kind of fucking with me just a little bit.

        Somebody screencap this whole situation and post it on Mastodon and Bluesky, then take a screenshot of that and post it back here on Lemmy.

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    This forward progress to the human race is brought to you by the color ORANGE.

    We proudly demonstrated to the world the proper direction to go.

    Our loss is your gain.

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      It must be stated that the Labor party here are anything but progressive. They are centre-right by the most recent assessment of their values and support a variety of cunts in toxic industries who fund their campaigns.

      The libs (our very right wing major party) ran an exceptionally incompetent campaign, with Dutton as a key soulless idiot who can’t admit to mistakes when it hits him in the face. They had a bit of headwind from the global anti Trump sentiment, but it wasn’t like we were in the same situation like Canada.

      Regionally we already ARE the 51st state of the USA, because we provide them with much needed Southern Hemisphere intelligence bases which Australians have no right to visit, and they are our protector against any major military threat in the region.

      It’s a minor victory for any progressive minded person, as any mention of action on the climate emergency was stupifyingly absent from the entire campaign.

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        Ah yes that old chestnut. The ALP isn’t perfect so we shouldn’t vote at all. You do realise that we have to vote here in Australia so vibe based voter suppression techniques don’t really work here. The perfect shouldn’t be the enemy of the good.

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        It must be stated that the Labor party here are anything but progressive.

        Coming from a Lemming this means less than nothing.

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    Foreign elections being won based on real opposition to Trump and those that style themselves after him. Democrats can do this, but it means they would have to stop trying to make deals with nazis.

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      It’s going to be so weird helping the Germans defeat Nazi America

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      Remember that the ultimate enemy are the Sociopathic Oligarchs, and their Corporations. They have nearly unlimited finances, so they have to be resisted in other ways.

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      Hopefully more like Cold War II. And honestly, Australia’s in a pickle there - most other democracies are pretty damn far away from it. They might try to do the Finland thing instead.

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          The way you phrased that makes it sound like there’s something I should personally do to make sure an inevitable conflict stays cold. If you have an idea, I’m all ears.

          Anyway, hopefully Canada will open up asylum to Americans soon, in case things get really bad.

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            I really hope they do, but I feel like nobody is going to take American refugees until mass atrocities are well underway

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    This is so good to hear. At least some good is coming out of my country being completely fucking destroyed.

    Hell yeah who’s next? I need some more good news. Getting a literal ulcer over here…

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      Some good news, ulcers can usually be treated with a simple round of antibiotics.

      I will refrain from finishing this thought in order to keep it good news