• Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
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    Cool, so I’ll get started on building an automated business that sells cheap access to all the music, movies and shows on the streaming services.

    Getting consent for each title would basically kill my business and would be implausible, so I’ll just assume it’s ok.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    If a business cannot survive without breaking the law, then it is not a business but a criminal organisation.

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      Contrary to popular belief among useful idiots, copyright and patent laws are not there to protect the working class.

      If copyright and patent laws actually protected workers, why have we not seen rulers fight back against them until now?

      This should be eye-opening to most of you, but that would involve admitting you were wrong.

      Most people can’t do that.

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    I have a proposition. Raid them with police and search their computers for stolen data like you would do with your citizens.

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    If your industry can’t exist without theft then your industry doesn’t deserve to exist, pretty simple.

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      Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

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        If someone pirates a movie for home use its no big deal because yes. If someone pirates a movie and then opens a movie theatre and starts charging people to watch the movie that’s an entirely different matter. AI is a business generating income, not a person skipping out on a $4 rental fee.

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        Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

        Shit take when the results are used for profit. Most of us that pirate aren’t legally monetizing our stash.

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        As long as people get punished for pirating media, corporations need to license their shit just as well.

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        Cool, so I can torrent without a VPN now?

        Oh, only the super rich can benefit. How convenient.

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    If being declined concent is going to kill your industry then maybe your industry deserved to die.

    Fucking rapist mentaility right there.

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      My thought exactly. If consent isn’t needed, what other actions do they deem justified without consent?

      This is not a IP-issue, this is about human rights.

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    oh noes

    Look, these goddamn assholes have got in their head that they have a right to profit.

    NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO PROFIT.

    You have a right to try to create a profit and there are rules to that. You’re gonna lose your billions in investment if you can’t plaigerize content?..fuck you, your loss, and you shoulda fucking known better when the idea was presented to you.

    Assholes

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    If asking for permission is going to kill an industry, then that industry should be killed.

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    Same thing for most of billionaires’ income sources.

    “Respecting [insert human right] would kill [insert industry].”

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    correction: will kill people’s attempts to make billions out of other people’s art. Otherwise inquisitive people will continue to do non-profit research this way or another.

    Actually here is a question to you: Would you be ok if the law stated you don’t need permission if it is non-profit and open source? Yea I thought so bitch.

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    Oh, so it’d be ok to get movies, pictures, books, etc. without asking the right owners for us too? GREAT.

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    And not asking for it will kill whatever remains of the creative industries.

    What do you want, a few years of ai slop followed by the more or less rapid decline of the internet (as it is overwhelmed with model collapse creative works and untrustable content) that will afford the likes of Clegg (in his role of ‘meta’ executive) a huge payout, or creative people having any hope of a sustained ability to make a living?

    I know what I would prefer and I also know what is most likely going to happen. This is the result of decades of neo-liberal fossil-fuel-powered capitalism.