I sometimes post news articles that examine possible problems in society. Some may agree with the author, some may disagree. I often see these posts being downvoted if many disagree with the author.

Why do you downvote the post instead of commenting to express your disagreement?

As far as I understand, the idea is to upvote the post to spur conversation and comment to express your agreement or disagreement. Or did I misunderstand something?

  • qooqie@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Opinion “news” masquerading as real news is one I’ll always downvote. Usually weeded out through who the publisher is

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    1 year ago

    Downvote disinformation. If someone’s going on about Trans bathrooms or Hunter Biden I know they’re not interested in truth.

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      1 year ago

      report it. So far the mods have seemed to take them down reasonably quickly. for example, that incel guy in !politics… (and here,)

      I still recommend down voting in the meantime, but, yeah.

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    1 year ago

    I’d ask why you care about fake internet points so much. If you want to share a link for a discussion, fine then do so, but if you are worried about meaningless up/down votes why?

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      i care about fake internet points because i want to share things people like. if they don’t like it, i’ll enjoy it myself, but i won’t bother sharing it

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    Everyone seems to have their own opinions about how you use upvote and downvote. You can either downvote because you don’t think it is a good article or because you don’t agree with it or just because you want less people to see it. There is no way to enforce how peoples choose to use this system. Which means that it doesn’t mean a whole lot and shouldn’t be taken very seriously.

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      Funilly enough, it seems if you put those specific meanings behind individual emoji, and also display the amount of those emoji accrued, it seems like that would fix the issue, except for more obvious cases of unintended use, like trolling and polling.

      Aka, I think Facebook may have figured that out via the expanded reaction suite (rather than just having the like button)

      But as Lemmy currently stands, I 100% agree with you

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    1 year ago

    Op-Eds are often “news analysis” pieces that are one of the main ways publishers try to shape the National dialogue around a subject or issue; it’s literally how newspapers sculpt culture. So, if I see one sculpting culture in a way I don’t like, I downvote it. If I feel the issue is important through to me and I have the energy at the time, I may comment, but that usually involves exposing myself to lots of angry, retaliatory comments and downvoting, and I don’t always have the patience for that.

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    1 year ago

    I’m not familiar exactly with your posts, but I wouldn’t necessarily assume the downvotes are for the reasons you think they are. Sometimes I’ll downvote a post because I don’t think it’s relevant to the topic or that it’s simply not interesting (and I really do view it merely as a vote, nothing personal). Then the OP will sometimes respond with “I can’t believe I was downvoted because of x, y, z” where x, y, z really had nothing to do with the downvote. If I disagree, I try to upvote because it’s on-topic and reply with my disagreement (which I have just done right now).

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    1 year ago

    Better question is why are you carrying over the obsession with karma over to lemmy? Are you the type to say before a post “I’ll probably be downvoted for this but…”

    Just stop caring about it completely.

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    1 year ago

    Why do you downvote the post instead of commenting to express your disagreement?

    Because in order to hide a post you need to vote on it and seeing as votes are meaningless why not hit the down vote?

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    That’s because on other platforms this is called “like” (and the opposite is thus “dislike”) button. And people often dislike opinions that are opposite to theirs especially in modern political environment.

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    As far as I understand, the idea is to upvote the post to spur conversation and comment to express your agreement or disagreement.

    thats how I try to do it. obvious hate/trolling gets a downvote/report/block as needed.

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    I tend to upvote everything, no matter how much I disagree. I don’t trust my own opinions or the authors’, all of them are flawed in some way.

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      1 year ago

      If you upvote everything isn’t that the equivalent of not upvoting anything?

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        Absolutely. But I don’t want to influence anything, just make the OP slightly happier and hopefully have a good read myself.

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          1 year ago

          unexpected awwwww!

          you’re compensating for that automatic single downvote that ~50% of all posts and comments seem to get ;-)

          • Mane25@feddit.uk
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            1 year ago

            I mean, 100% of posts get an automatic upvote because they all start at 1 instead of zero!

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    I downvote fash talking points. Because obviously I do.

    That’s not a sly jab at you, I can’t see anything objectionable in your post history. But I would guess a lot of people have different ideas about what talking points are bogus, or what counts as news, or maybe they’re just trying to bury a repost that has already taken off elsewhere. You don’t really have any way of knowing why they’re downvoting.