I get that some instances use the domain + TLD to make a word, like lemm.ee or to an extent, sh.itjust.works. But I’ve seen so many TLDs I had no idea existed, like .world, .zone, .social, and yes .works as well.

Is there any real reason for that? Trying to look cool or kinda underground-y? Cheaper and more varied domain options? Something actually kinda functional?

Interestingly, I started on vlemmy.net because I was a scared Reddit refugee and the .net TLD gave me comfort. Then it vanished a few days later without a trace. So here I am on lemmy.world

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    “Weird” TLDs tend to be cheaper. .social is also supposed to be made for this in the first place

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    They look better and more quirky than the “usual” ones. Also, sometimes they might be even cheaper

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        Definitely not. Some examples (actual prices I pay for my various domains):

        • com: $18/y (gTLD)
        • net: $19/y (gTLD)
        • de: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
        • re: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
        • design: $49/y
        • tech: $55/y
        • blue: $23/y
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          I think this depends largely on the domain name … So I’m not sure this data is all that enlightening out of context.

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            My data just serves as a counter point to the argument “new domains are always cheaper”. Of course it depends on the domain and how greedy a particular NIC is to create a text file on a server.

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              I guess it’s a matter of semantics on the word “always”. You are technically right, it isn’t 100% of the time. But 99% or even 90% is still good enough for conventional wisdom, which might be the other interpretation here (especially in contrast to the assertion of it’s “sometimes” cheaper).

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          I think I got my .fun for about £2 from names.co.uk usually price for a .com is £30.

          I’ve found most weird TLDs are cheaper than classic ones, but there are some exceptions (.app and .io comes to mind)

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    Cost of domain name tends to be cheaper with more obscure Top Level Domains (TLDs). .com .org .net TLDs are expensive because they are popular and high in demand. You have to rent them out most of the time. Many are already claimed so you either have to buy the owner out or wait till they stop paying and it expires if you really want it, .xyz is very cheap and uncommon on the other hand thus pennies on the dime per year to rent. Also depending on where you live and your occupation you can actually get a domain name for free through registering with specific services that actually for real own the Top Level Domains. If you are a citizen of a certain country you can get a .us or .cad or .eu .ml domain ect either for free or very very cheap.

    Check out this list for all TLDs and if you qualify for one for free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains

    Heres a free domain name registar thats quite promising from the looks of it, most likely the one that lemmy.ml uses https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en

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    Why does ICANN allow so many weird domains to begin with? Domains used to be a good way to tell if you were going to the legit website.

    .com - commercial entity .gov - government only .edu - educational entities only .net - network providers (ISP) only .org - non profit only

    Those days are gone.

    Now there’s Startrek.website and Startrek.com — how does the user know which one is owned by Paramount/Star Trek?

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        That one in particular is a bomb waiting to blow. Is this link to a webpage or to a malicious download? Who knows! Guess we’ll just have to click on it and see if anything starts downloading.

        Using file extensions for your TLD should be a big no-no for a lot of reasons, that being one of them.

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          Using file extensions for your TLD should be a big no-no for a lot of reasons, that being one of them.

          That is what I said about .com.

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            Yeah but nobody uses .com files anymore. Its a dead format. Any that still do are for specific users and rare instances.

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            huh, Windows still distributes a handful of .com programs. Neat.

            I liked .com back in the day because it was easy to write assembly and dump it through the MSDOS ‘debug’ program to create an executable.

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              At one point it time. Back in the early Windows days it was how applications were distributed. These days it’s all .exe files.

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          .com was a common file extension for MS-DOS executables, which was still in common use when the Internet started taking off.

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          Are you aware that opening any webpage, regardless of TLD, can cause a file to start downloading?

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      Hasn’t .com always been the commerce/business. Would a Google search for Star Trek actually bring you to Startrek.website? It seems like anyone with half a brain would know the difference. Legit companies/entities are going to stick to known domains.

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      That’s not how the internet works. Any schmuck can buy those domain names except for .gov and .edu

      I’m not an ISP, but I can get any .net domain for $11 a year. And then put ads and malware on the site. If someone else hadn’t snatched it already I could even register disney.net if I wanted to. There is zero guarantee that Disney is behind a Disney domain.

      You’ll also find a hundred other Disney domains that are not owned by Disney. Big companies usually register a handful of domains for countries they do business in. And darn, some guy already registered disney.world :)

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        .ie is another one, you can’t get them from a lot of registrars and have to prove you’re genuinely based in Ireland.

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          It didn’t. I can’t find a single reference that .net registration was ever restricted to networking companies at all (it might be the intention of the name, but there was never a requirement for it). Same for .com, you could just register them back in the day too.

          Hell, .net was even free to register at first before they started charging for domains.

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      Well one is a forum with a little mouse at the top and the other one is a website with official logos, branding, a shop, and news.

      You’re not gonna get recommended startrek.website unless you’re specifically looking for it or a star trek lemmy instance in general.

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    New gTLDs have been released constantly since ICANN dropped the restriction. Also consider that a lot of Lemmy instances are run by individuals as a side project. That means they’ll reuse or nab whatever cool sounding domain they can get to spin up their new instance as quickly as possible. Corporate websites might pause and consider a more “marketable” domain.

    Personal theory of mine is *.itjust.works meant to stand for “It Just Works” until they decided to give this Lemmy thing a go.