• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    4 days ago

    Having been burned many times in the past, I won’t even trust 40 GB to a Seagate drive let alone 40 TB.

    Even in enterprise arrays where they’re basically disposable when they fail, I’m still wary of them.

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      Still, it’s a good thing if it means energy savings at data centers.

      For home and SMB use there’s already a notable absence of backup and archival technologies to match available storage capacities. Developing one without the other seems short sighted.

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        I still wonder, what’s stopping vendors from producing “chonk store” devices. Slow, but reliable bulk storage SSDs.

        Just in terms of physical space, you could easily fit 200 micro SD cards in a 2.5" drive, have everything replicated five times and end up with a reasonably reliable device (extremely simplified, I know).

        I just want something for luke-warm storage that didn’t require a datacenter and/or 500W continuous power draw.

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          Cost. The speed of flash storage is an inherent quality and not something manufacturers are selecting for typically. I assure you if they knew how to make some sort of Super MLC they absolutely would.

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            It’s not inherent in terms of “more store=more fast”.

            You could absolutely take older, more established production nodes to produce higher quality, longer lasting flash storage. The limitation hardly ever is space, but heat. So putting that kind of flash storage, with intentionally slowed down controllers, into regular 2.5 or even 3.5" form factors should be possible.

            Cost could be an issue because the market isn’t seen as very large.

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          Flash drives are much worse than hard drives for cold storage. The charge in flash will leak.

          If you want cheap storage, back it up to another drive and unplug it.

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      My first seagate HD started clicking as I was moving data to it from my older drive just after I purchased it. This was way back in the 00s. In a panic, I started moving data back to my older hd (because I was moving jnstead of copying) and then THAT one started having issues also.

      Turns out when I overclocked my CPU I had forgotten to lock the PCI bus, which resulted in an effective overclock of the HDD interfaces. It was ok until I tried moving mass amounts of data and the HDD tried to keep up instead of letting the buffer fill up and making the OS wait.

      I reversed the OC and despite the HDDs getting so close to failure, both of them lasted for years after that without further issue.

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      Same here. Been burned by SSD’s too though - a Samsung Evo Pro drive crapped out on me just months after buying it. Was under warranty and replaced at no cost, but I still lost all my data and config/settings.

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        Any disk can and will fail at some point in time. Backup is your best friend. Some sort of disk redundancy is your second best friend.

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      Same. Between work and home, I’ve had ~30 Seagate drives fail after less than a year. I stopped buying them for personal use many years ago, but work still insists, because they’re cheaper. I have 1TB WD Black drives that are over ten years old and still running. My newest WD Black drive is a 6TB, and I’ve had it for seven years. I dunno if WD Black is still good, but that’s the first one I’ll try if I need a new drive.