The moderators of a pro-artificial intelligence Reddit community announced that they have been quietly banning “a bunch of schizoposters” who believe “they’ve made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god,” highlighting a new type of chatbot-fueled delusion that started getting attention in early May.
that sub seems to be fully brigaded by bots from marketing team of closed-ai and preplexity
At this rate we’ll soon have a decentralized para-religious terrorist organization full of brainlets that got scared shitless after discovering Roko’s Basilisk and are now doing the cyber lord’s bidding in order to not get punished once AGI arrives
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Boy have I got news for you.
Look up the Zizians.
(Ok they’re only a tangential offshoot of people who maybe really like the Basilisk thought experiment and mostly don’t believe it. But hey. It’s underway!)
Zizians my guy, they already exist
“rationalists”. They dare use that name unironically.
Rationalists are (supposedly) smart enough to figure out that Roko’s Basilisk wouldn’t waste cycles torturing someone in effigy if they decided they’re going to ignore the threat of Roko’s Basilisk. It’s the opposite of a catch-22.
Imagine a boot SO mighty that if it exists it might crush you, so you need to lick it ahead of time so that someday if it does exist, it might not crush you.
What if it’s an infinitely mighty boot? Ya know what’d make it even more mighty? Existing. Therefore it already exists. Start licking!
I just did a theology!
The omniscient Boot requires lubrication!
I mean, at least the chat bots are always nonviolent and are restricted from encouraging people to do any harm. Doesn’t mean these people can’t (un)reason around it. People read the Bible and think it’s telling them to bomb clinics and hate their neighbors somehow.
decentralized
Depends on the AI they’re using and its bias
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This reads like Zack Freedman
“Artifical” Intellegence has already taken over “Social” Media and the internet.
What I mean by the quotes: We replaced our social interactions with each other with Social Media, which has nothing social about it, then replaced the humans in social media with artificial slop generated by computers guessing what you want to read, watch, or hear.
Most of Facebook, Insta, Youtube, Reddit, Twitter…etc is AI profiles, AI channels, and AI sloptrash content that give back google-ad revenue money to some russian or indian dude who doen’t even speak english.
Lemmy seems to be the only place with actual people for the most part. I worry so heavily for the idiots of the world that can’t discern robots from people. They’re really going to fall for what a programmed machine has to say.
I’ve wondered about this.
I cant believe that somehow everything except lemmy got infected. There must exist some ai comments here but i have not noticed them…
Of course its better not do dwell on this to much or paranoia quickly sets in.
Oh, I’m sure there are bots on Lemmy too. The general userbase, however - of people who are sick of Reddit’s BS - are also going to have very little tolerance for bot BS, so the instances are incentivized to try to keep bot activity down lest they be de-federated.
Plus they don’t see ad revenue, so there’s no profit incentive to keep bots around acting as if they’re real traffic. If anything, Lemmy instances are disincentivized from allowing bot traffic because it means more traffic than necessary, which costs them bandwidth.
It’s not paranoia. The internet is legitimately dying.
Death internet theory, i know it well.
And yet i keep going back, exactly because i look for a way to distraction from my troubles.
Or maybe even take a step back. Dead internet theory is real and we’re living it, but just because the main subreddits and FB are ai schlock doesn’t mean Lemmy is the only ‘real’ place.
I feel the hardest part is keeping my senses about me when I argue with hivemind mentality. You will probably get a feeling from my writing, that I too embraced the hive speak and mind. And this is where the bots get the everyperson. Bots speak in hivemind and meme format. I think this whole kerfuffle will do wonders for real online discussion, as low-effort discussions will be dismissed as white noise.
Ngl, that last paragraph felt like some pseudo-prodigal word vomit that only an AI would produce.
you sus af
Exactomundo!
The only reason that last paragraph ain’t outright ai garbage (besides my elegant use of ‘everyperson’, mind you) is that there is a semi-original though buried at the end of it. This paragraph is odacious, so point taken.
Highly doubt an AI would ever write “everyperson”
Confirmed /s
Thank goodness. I was worried there for a second.
tfw its no longer just the AI hallucinating
It never was. Hallucinations are in no way unique to LLMs.
I always wanted to take drugs with my computer!
The year is 2026 the cyberchristo religion is taking off….
The wh 40k lore sounds more realistic than ever
I firmly believe when we have actual sexbots, that will be the sharp decline and decadence that will birth Slaanesh.
I think Terry A Davis would have found god in chat GPT and could have figured out the API calls on TempleOS
Hard to say. I feel like it’s about as likely he would have found LLMs to be an overcomplicated false prophet or false god.
This was a man whose operating system turned a PC into something not unlike an advanced Commodore 64, after all. He liked the simplicity and lack of layers the older computers provided. LLMs are literally layers upon layers of obfuscation and pseudo-neural wiring. That’s not simple or beautiful.
It might all boil down to whether the inherent randomness of an LLM could be (made to be) sufficiently influenced by a higher power or not. He often treated random number outcomes as the influence of God, and it’s hard to say how seriously he took that on any given day.
I’d imagine it’s a fool’s errand to try and find threads of logic and consistency in the profoundly schizophrenic.
What Terry enjoyed about computers has been echoed among lots of old heads in the unix world. On the tech front, he was solid.
It’s the um, finding god in the code part…
The issue is not lack of logic and consistency, the trouble is a completely different reference frame.
Let me put it, to grossly simplify, in this way: Imagine you’d be dreaming while awake, no way to stop it, and would have to integrate all that craziness in real time. It’s not that dreams make no sense – they all have their rhyme and reason – it’s that they’re talking a completely different language.
You might be hearing, out of nowhere, a cello note off to the side, move your gaze there, notice “that’s my trashcan that makes no sense”, and then be lost, and panic, lose faith in your senses, and that way lies psychosis. More productively, you say “ok mind which thought with as of yet unformed discernible meaning was it that you wanted me to pay attention to”, look for the place the thought came from (as schizo, you can tell with your kinaesthetic sense), consider it for a while, still being oblivious of the meaning, and then go on with your life.
We’re weird.
Oh, back to randomness: It can get you out of a rut and I do suppose that’s how Terry used it, aware of it or not, and framing it however he did. Could also be using it to self-soothe, as in, distracting from a negative spiral. There’s worse habits.
God, with almost 100% certainty, means “the genome and how it’s speaking to me through my instincts” in his dialect. Because that’s what it always means, what it always meant, for everyone, it meant that when it was the ancestors, it meant that when it became more detailed and became gods, it meant that when people realised all the gods are actually one thing, the theologists are just confused AF because politics and physics and cabbage-heads got into the mix. And so much for my schizo rant. Don’t discount what I say because I’m crazy, the reason you consider me crazy is because it’s true.
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I’ve been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I’m wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I’ve been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more “trustworthy”* and capable of searching online for more information?
Edit; *trustworthy in quotes because of course people will jump on this. I know the limitations of LLM, I don’t need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI. And I know LLM aren’t AI.
There are no trustworthy LLMs. They don’t know it understand what they’re saying - they’re literally just predicting words that sound like they match what it was taught. It’s a only barely smarter than a parrot, and it has no idea how to research anything or tell facts from made-up bullshit. You’re wasting your time by trying to force it to do something it’s literally incapable of doing.
You’re better off researching them the hard way; check primary sources and then check the credibility of those sources.
Considering that parrots can have actual thoughts, I’d say LLMs are even less smart than that.
Claude definitely has its impressive moments where it calls out something inaccurate.
It’s also way less sycophantic, mature and better for light coding.
My only issue is that the servers are sometimes slow and so is the ios app which frequently trows an error after 2 minutes if waiting.
I don’t need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI
On my Lemmy?? Impossible. I was just told by three different people rather condescendingly and assuming just as much about me that I was suffering from AI brain rot for daring to compare something to AI. The horror.
Claude 3.7 told me i’m wrong a couple of times. It knows how to search. I don’t have an opinion on 4 yet but it can search too
AI is not healthy. Our mental health is nowhere near good enough to handle even this level of machine intelligence.
LLMs have breathed new life into the mid life crisis.
