• fubarx@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Once these AI companies go belly-up, those people with critical thinking and research skills will be able to name their price.

    Those abilities have been in high demand for millenia. Focus on the basics.

  • LupusBlackfur@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Thank fuck I graduated college decades ago…

    Actual education/teaching is under assault in the US from all sides these days… Not certain today’s students have any chance. 🙄 🤦‍♀️ 🖕 💩

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          10 days ago

          no, it means they will try to somehow apply the knowledge they acquired to real life problem. creating a project, instead of writing a text.

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        9 days ago

        well how would you verify wether a thesis was written by AI? Mind that accusations are a serious matter, so “i guess it sorta looks like AI” or a percent number spat out by some unreliable LLM-detection AI isnt going to cut it

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          9 days ago

          well, not sure if it works the same everywhere in the world, but here, you first write the graduation thesis and then you have to publicly defend it.

          if the defense committee (or is it an attack committee, since it is the student who is on defense? :D) can’t ask questions in a way to find out whether the student actually wrote the paper and understands the topic, then what fucking pseudo-scientific field is that? (and the answer indeed is - it is economics 😂)

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            9 days ago

            Then the student could just ask the AI to simulate a thesis defense and learn answers to the most likely questions.

            The funny thing is, they would actually learn the material this way, through a kind of osmosis. I remember writing cheat sheets in college and finding I didn’t need it by the end.

            So there are potential use cases, but not if the university doesn’t acknowledge it and continues asking for work that can be simply automated.

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              Then the student could just ask the AI to simulate a thesis defense and learn answers to the most likely questions.

              while my opinion of economy as a field is not very high, i still have high enough opinion of any teacher to believe they do outperform shitty ai…

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          9 days ago

          from what ive seen on some reddit posts, they USE AI to accuse the student of writing in AI.

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      9 days ago

      i graduated just before the fuckery, and they were at the forefront of using software/weeding out software for jobs already. when i was HS, students already had given up on doing homework, and they were passing people with failing/D grades to graduation. eveyrone that graduated during the pandemic, or is taking classes, said my old college is pretty bad now. because most of them elected to be online classes. theres also other prevailing issues that never were solved when i was still in college. them USING CHATGPT, is probably a step up from just copy and pasting content from various sites with the same exact question or essay.

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      9 days ago

      There are people who want to do their own thinking and those who don’t. The ratio hasn’t changed much over time. Only the possibilities.

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    9 days ago

    When I walk around in my uni people openly talk about using chatgpt to pass their classes. When I ask for help on some lecture groupchat first 4 answers are “I just used chatgpt.”

    They gave me a whole speech about how they take academic dishonesty so seriously at the beginning but I am honestly just disappointed now. Even using solution manuals make you considered a “good student”

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      9 days ago

      it has gotten so bad? no wonder my state uni have been complaining review sites about the schools lack of direction for its direction.

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    9 days ago

    “Hi, what version of chatgpt did you use in your surgical training? Great!”

    “You say the engineering team that designed this suspended walkway just used chatgpt during their training? Sounds good!”

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    9 days ago

    I kinda dont like ChatGPT because it trains everything you feed it into it (goes the same with any LLM)
    and hopefully it wont be forced Right??? (Probably)

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    I’m not supporting higher education becoming reliant on for-profit companies like this, but AI tutors and the like, if properly implemented, would be kinda awesome. For example, it’s usually not feasible to have real life staff on hand to answer student questions at all hours of the day. Especially at the more early years of university, where content is simpler, AI is more than capable of meeting needs like this.

    I don’t fully agree with most of the people on this thread. I also hate AI slop being forced into what feels like all aspects of our life right now, but LLMs do have some genuine uses.

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      9 days ago

      Yeah man for profit companies should be banned in higher ed also unrelated did you renew the license for your textbook?

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      10 days ago

      Just ask ChatGPT what this means, it will explain it to you like you’re five.