I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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    I honestly don’t think progressive politics is the problem. When it comes to the US. The only other party is the democrats and at best they are center at best but really they are just Republicans from 20 years ago. From a fiscal sense.

    Both times they sold the American people to pick them just because the other side is worse. The problem is most people don’t want to pick the lesser of two evils. They want to pick something that will change their lives for the better.

    The problem is when Democrats don’t really have a platform or communicate that platform effectively. But the other guy is saying he will fix the problems in people’s lives even if they are lies. Most low information voters will roll the dice on the chance he is not lying. Because the other side has brought nothing to the table at all.

    The logic i have seen with a man like that broke my heart was this. He said i care about the plate of Trans folks and other minorities but like on an airplane you have to put on your own mask on first before you help others. So when you are out of work or can’t afford to live. The culture wars feels like less a priority for those type of people.

    When looking with that lense it makes sense how people voted. People with higher education and income voted Dem becase they wanted to help others.

    People with lower income voted Republican out of desperation and was easy for Republicans to sell the snake oil of. If we hurt these small group of people. All your problems will be solved. Then those same people are hurt more when they find out it was all a lie.

    Read up on history and how Germany was after World War I. It’s like having a crystal ball of what’s going to happen next.

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      So funny thing is republicans say the same thing. There is a famous quote ““Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.””

      I would argue the left needs to take some responsibility with getting distracted in the culture war and losing site of the working class. Look at Bernie you can go back to 2016 and see people saying that bernie was a bro candidate and not progressive enough compared to hillarly on insert x wedge issue here

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        Yep that’s why they fucked over Bernie so hard. He was what we always wanted in a progressive president. But since the rich area playing both size and acting like they different the DNC sabotaged him twice and now we see the result.