Trump said amid Israel's strikes that he knew where the Iranian leader was hiding and that he was an "easy target."

A senior cleric in Iran has issued a fatwa declaring that anyone who threatens Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “an enemy of God,” state media has reported.

Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi was responding to a question about any threats made by U.S. President Donald Trump and the leaders of Israel, including prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A fatwa is a ruling on how to interpret Islamic law issued by a clerical authority.

  • infyrian@kbin.melroy.org
    1163·
    3 days ago

    Got too many ‘leaders’ in this globe with a Jesus Christ/God Complex. That’s what is wrong with this world.

      • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        214·
        3 days ago

        Most organized religions don’t cultivate empathy, especially the ones considered Abrahamic. It probably inhibits it.

        It’s all about their gods saying “do these things and you won’t suffer at my hands.” Followers don’t get to think about whether something is correct or the right thing to do. They’re too busy thinking about if it’s going to count as a sin.

        Having lived in Utah for way too long, I have seen this among the Mor[m]ons. They’ll do “good works” but it’s very impersonal most of the time.

        It’s about grinding the maximum blessings with the least amount of effort. That doesn’t lend itself to empathy.

        Especially with the whole temple thing. Spend a couple of hours cosplaying as an avatar for a dead person and still get all the blessings as if you helped a living person in a tight spot.

        • olympicyes@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          3 days ago

          It’s bizarre given how explicit the teachings of Jesus are. It’s very clear that many churches are cults following the teachings of man, only nominally accepting the word of God

        • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
          124·
          2 days ago

          Most organized religions don’t cultivate empathy, especially the ones considered Abrahamic. It probably inhibits it.

          This is simply false.

          https://theconversation.com/us-muslims-gave-more-to-charity-than-other-americans-in-2020-170689

          We found that Muslim Americans gave more to charity, donating an average of $3,200, in 2020, versus $1,905 for other respondents. They also differed from non-Muslims in many ways. For example, nearly 8.5% of their contributions supported civil rights causes, compared with 5.3% of the general public.

          All observant Muslim adults with the means to do so are expected to give to charity in adherence to faith-based traditions. One, known as Zakat, is more formal and among the five pillars of Islam that Muslims are expected to adhere to. Another, sadaqah, happens voluntarily.

          That made us want to see if religiosity played a role with the charitable patterns of U.S. Muslims. It turns out that Muslims who displayed higher levels of religiosity, such as by praying more often, were also more likely to give to charity than those who prayed less frequently. We found similar trends among non-Muslims.

          https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/british-muslims-give-four-times-the-average-uk-donor-report-says.html

          British Muslims are the most generous group in the UK, giving more than four times as much money to charity each year than the average Brit, according to new research.

          The researchers saw this across all income brackets and it rose to its highest amongst those earning between £75,000-£100,000.

          Muslims in the UK are also twice as likely as the British average to raise money via community events and via personal challenges such as running marathons, the report says.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
            62·
            2 days ago

            Keep fighting the good fight, man. I’ve given up on getting Lemmy atheists to abandon any but the most insane of positions (and even then they dig in their heels half the time).

          • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.worldEnglish
            53·
            2 days ago

            Or any sort of American-based religion tbh. Christianity (the rites and added Roman things, not the supposed core of Jesus’ teachings) is a mess in itself, but then you have Evangelicals and megachurches and whatever other crazy and distinctively American branches they have over there that I’m not surprised that’s their only understanding of religion. Religion is about self-control, everything else is wind.

        • TexasDrunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
          92·
          3 days ago

          The thing I found out when I was a manager is you will get exactly what you measure. If you measure how long it takes to close tickets your customer service will suffer (that’s a stupid thing to measure anyway, but we had a stupid director). If you measure the number of tickets closed then you’ll get each step of a process as a ticket. If you measure billable hours you’ll get a bunch of time padding.

          So since the religion is measuring the amount of sin and (in some denominations cases) good works performed, that’s what you’ll get. How many of the big 10 did you stay on the right side of? Did you put in 2 hours at the soup kitchen? Cool, here’s your ticket to heaven. It’s not measuring how good you are to your fellow humans. And they’re pissed if you don’t have to follow the same rules they do because you don’t believe in the same sins. So they try to force others to live by their dumb ass rules instead of trying to get others to be good people.

          • MonkeMischief@lemmy.todayEnglish
            1·
            23 hours ago

            I like your example about foolish management, and you’re right in that’s what you’ll get when you “measure for holiness.” Hypocrites and holier-than-thous galore.

            However, and I can only speak from a Christian experience, this is why “works based salvation” is not what is taught by Jesus Himself.

            What you speak of with “How many of these laws did you follow enough to get a ticket to heaven?” is Hollywood theology at best, and not at all Biblical.

            Numerous times He stresses doing good works in secret, and not to show off to others. (If you get attention for it, that’s your petty little reward, basically.)

            A righteous life inspires good works naturally, and the Law makes sure we should never forget that none of us are perfect, therefore we are called to forgive others the way we’d wish to be forgiven.

            We are not called to judge others. If you judge others, you’d best be ready to submit to being judged by the same metric. (And will likely be found wanting.)

            I too, am I weary and sick of these religious cults, who want to wear the funniest big hats and stand on the highest podiums to look down their nose at all the lesser-thans. Surely, they’ve “already gotten their reward”, and those who use faith to mislead and abuse others do not know their God, and He will not remember them.

          • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
            123·
            2 days ago

            I cannot speak for other religions but for Islam that is completely false.

            Intention is crucial to the evaluation of an action. An outwardly good deed with bad intention is worth nothing, and a bad deed done out of good intention will see forgiveness in its punishment.

            See for instance: https://islamweb.net/en/article/156996/the-intention-is-the-foundation-of-every-action

            A famous hadith (saying by the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him) goes as follows (translation of the meaning):

            The first of men (whose case) will be decided on the Day of Judgment will be a man who died as a martyr. He shall be brought (before the Judgment Seat). Allah will make him recount His blessings (i. e. the blessings which He had bestowed upon him) and he will recount them (and admit having enjoyed them in his life).
            (Then) will Allah say: What did you do (to requite these blessings)?
            He will say: I fought for Thee until I died as a martyr.
            Allah will say: You have told a lie. You fought that you might be called a" brave warrior". And you were called so.
            (Then) orders will be passed against him and he will be dragged with his face downward and cast into Hell.

            Then will be brought forward a man who acquired knowledge and imparted it (to others) and recited the Qur’an. He will be brought And Allah will make him recount His blessings and he will recount them (and admit having enjoyed them in his lifetime). Then will Allah ask: What did you do (to requite these blessings)?
            He will say: I acquired knowledge and disseminated it and recited the Qur’an seeking Thy pleasure. Allah will say: You have told a lie. You acquired knowledge so that you might be called" a scholar," and you recited the Qur’an so that it might be said:" He is a Qari" and such has been said.
            Then orders will be passed against him and he shall be dragged with his face downward and cast into the Fire.

            Then will be brought a man whom Allah had made abundantly rich and had granted every kind of wealth. He will be brought and Allah will make him recount His blessings and he will recount them and (admit having enjoyed them in his lifetime).
            Allah will (then) ask: What have you done (to requite these blessings)?
            He will say: I spent money in every cause in which Thou wished that it should be spent.
            Allah will say: You are lying. You did (so) that it might be said about (You):" He is a generous fellow" and so it was said.
            Then will Allah pass orders and he will be dragged with his face downward and thrown into Hell.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.todayEnglish
      17·
      3 days ago

      A Jesus Christ complex would be refreshing. A leader who would deny earthly pleasures, command their followers to love thy neighbor, feed the hungry, uplift the sick and poor, give long sermons about mercy and forgiving your enemies, and would be seen personally breaking bread with the unhoused and lawyers alike?

      That’d freak everybody out for sure.

    • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      “Jesus complex” is being an imperialistic or violent and abusive pillaging freak? 😭🙃

      The Sermon on the Mount is like 4 pages long, come on…

      • ISOmorph@feddit.orgEnglish
        41·
        3 days ago

        Thank you for being the voice of reason. I keep telling peole that without religion people would wage war about what the best color is. If you want to be a dick you’ll always find a reason

        • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          22 hours ago

          But maybe we should take away the reasons that make people think divinity supports their actions, instead of them just being shitty people making shitty decisions.