• Allemaniac@lemmy.world
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    “activist” even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.

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    Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

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    Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

    That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:

    • Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
    • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
    • Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
    • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Don’t forget

      removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

      runs from people trying to ask them questions

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        If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.

        runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

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      That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

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      I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.

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      EU is not much better.
      You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
      And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
      Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
      Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.

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      No no, you don’t understand. That doesn’t apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes “strongly condemn” them.

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        I’m waiting for the conniption when all these people find out that the cars and trucks they drive have transmissions.

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    By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.

    Ever since Twitter owner used Twitter to say Canada “wasn’t a real country”, no Canadian should be using Twitter. That wasn’t just bias, it was an “in your face and screw you” kind of bias.

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    100% “X is an organized crime group”. if you count brainwashing as a crime, which i do.

    they’re manipulating public opinion towards what the rich want to hear. it’s all propaganda.

    elon musk bought twitter to conduct “social engineering” after doing classical engineering before at tesla. it’s all just a way to control what people think, and it’s partially working. the people need to get off commercial social media and use something community-hosted, like the fediverse. to reduce the tinkering with recommendation algorithms and also to reduce the bot army.

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    But Twitter censors all kinds of posts? There is no free speech on Twitter. Just try posting the word cisgendered and see what happens.

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    Translation help from Fascist English to US English:

    • “activist” = a non-politician whose free speech we don’t like
    • “allow all voices to be heard” / “free speech” = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/…
    • “defend […] all Americans” = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven’t jailed yet (subject to change)
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      His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.

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        Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.

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          But then, you see who sits in the supreme court, for fucking lifetime.

          And of course the stupid pardon rule.

          And immunity of president making him above the law even tho nobody shall be above the law.

          And possibility to de-found stuff without a vote or a chance to do a referendum.

          And gerrymandering.

          And winner takes it all.

          And no absolute majority requirement.

          All this made this fuckup possible.

          Everyone loses except only a very small minority wins.

          Do something about it.

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          “Free speech” doesn’t entitle you to dictate policy over privately held companies. We spent four years trying to convince Trumpers of this. Be smarter.

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            What do you mean, did the Biden admin target any particular shows or networks? Are you also aware the current admin is holding off Paramount’s merger to exert influence over their programming? IDK how free that feels. May not be directly breaking laws, but it’s absolutely a subversion of free speech.

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              No, it’s not. Free speech protects what you say from the government, not your employer. Your employer ALSO has free speech, meaning they can decide what can and can’t be said on their property.

              This is like saying Sesame Street doesn’t show hardcore porn and that’s a violation of free speech.

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          Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

          That a poor comparison since on x the moderations is about random citizen and not paid employee doing a work for a company that a the end of the day is free to choose how to spent her money

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              how much ? cause the cost is high too. anyway

              However, the “pros” ultimately won out because, according to sources close to the network, “The Late Show” was losing money and there was no apparent path to turning around its financial position. source

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            Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

            Even if that were true, which it isn’t, what business does the president have even mentioning it much less making a demand?

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              However, the “pros” ultimately won out because, according to sources close to the network, “The Late Show” was losing money and there was no apparent path to turning around its financial position. source

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          It’s a visceral reaction, my guess. It’s exactly the same argument that right wingers used when oreilly, carlson, etc got canceled.

          Not paying someone millions for saying stuff on TV is not infringing on free speech, now apparently it’s leftists turn to not understand it.

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    Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?

    Tell us more about the importance of free speech.

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      It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.

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    Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.

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      Just block it in Europe already.

      The Brazil Government did this for a week and immediately extracted big concessions from Elon. Really curious to see the EU so reluctant to employ a tried-and-true tactic… assuming you believe these governments are adversarial to American plutocrats.

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      The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let’s be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.

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        As a UKian, this is unfortunately true. No matter how many of us want to just cut off the US completely, the government will always capitulate.

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        They are literally blocking post on x under their new protect the children rules. Which is a rule that will be abuse

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    It is not censorship. This is not a government telling you what to publish or not. This is just finding out how a company is abusing its product to influence politics.