• Davriellelouna@lemmy.worldOP
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    9 hours ago

    What you are doing is called moving the goal post. But I’ll answer.

    1. Hamas is not “The Palestinians”. Saying Hamas committed bad things doesn’t mean “demonizing palestinians”.

    2. The french media confirmed there were acts of sexual abuse on October 7. This is a very strange hill to die on.

    3. The NYT has published stunning investigations into Israeli crimes:

    An Israeli Soldier Killed a Medic in Gaza. We Investigated the Fatal Shot.

    https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000005933727/israel-gaza-medic-killed-rouzan-najjar.html

    Autopsies of Gaza Medics Killed by Israeli Troops Show Some Were Shot in the Head

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/06/world/middleeast/gaza-medics-killed-israel.html

    4. She wasn’t a NYT journalist. She was a freelancer. She helped make the movie “Waltz with Bashir” and was described as a leftist. Her Facebook profile picture declared in Arabic that “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies’”. The like was in question was posted on October 7. Upon learning this, on March 2024, the NYT ended her employment.

    5. You are quoting The Intercept. That small newspaper also has reporters involved in ethical scandals. You want me to list them all?

    6. The New York Times has published opinion pieces by several Palestinians and Israelis.

    Palestinian: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/opinion/palestine-war-empathy.html

    Israeli: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/10/opinion/israel-war-hamas-sderot.html

    Palestinian: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/opinion/israel-gaza-war-history.html

    Israeli: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/07/opinion/israel-democracy-netanyahu-war.html

    Palestinian: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/opinion/israel-netanyahu-palestinians.html

    Israeli: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/opinion/gaza-war-holocaust-shoah.html

    Palestinian: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/opinion/palestine-leadership-war-israel.html

    Benjamin Netanyahu doesn’t like New York Times very much.

    From december 2022:

    Israel’s Prime Minister-elect Benjamin Netanyahu slammed the New York Times on Sunday after the paper’s editorial board warned his administration would undermine democracy and cater to extremists.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/netanyahu-shreds-new-york-times-demonizing-israel-decades-after-scathing-editorial

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      i was providing evidence why the NYT is agenda driven. As for how they hide it, i already recommended you to read “Manufacturing Consent” where this is analyzed in detail.

      The french media confirmed there were acts of sexual abuse on October 7. This is a strange hill to die on.

      Now you are moving goal posts and ignoring the fundamental problem. Also you selectively focus on the intercept, when multiple media outlets have investigated the NYT piece and found severe problems.

      There is a substantial difference between factual reporting on sexual violence and letting a “former” intelligence officer who calls for genocide to completely fabricate cases and become unhinged in her claims. This also amounted to psychological violence against victims and family members who had to come out and deny the fabrications made by the New York Times. Imagine your family member is being murdered and a ruthless “former” intelligence officer is spreading inventions to make it more gruesome than it was and people being bullied to lie about it in order to support the governments propaganda efforts.

      On January 3, Mondoweiss published an article by an “anonymous group of Palestinian journalists in Israel” containing a critical review of statements in “Screams Without Words” about Gal Abdush. As described by Mondoweiss, some of Abdush’s relatives, including her sisters and brother-in-law, stated that she hadn’t been raped.[11][2] Her brother-in-law, Nissim Abdush, stated that no official party had informed them of sexual assault, saying that “the media invented it”.[11] Her sisters Tali Barakha and Miral Altar pointed out perceived incoherencies in the timing of events, with Altar writing that “[i]t doesn’t make any sense that in four minutes, they raped her, slaughtered her, and burned her”.[11] The Mondoweiss article also pointed to a Ynet interview of Gal’s mother, Eti Bracha, where she stated that she had only learned about the rape from “the New York Times reporter”.[11][10] However, Bracha, like Gal Abdush’s brother and mother-in-law, said they believed Abdush was raped.[10] Bracha stated that “there are witnesses who saw the sexual assault of my daughter”.[10] In an article published in CounterPunch in early February, media scholar and Fordham University professor Robin Andersen criticized the strength of the investigation, noting major discrepancies between families’ testimonies and the article’s text.[22]

      Eden Wessely, who filmed Gal Abdush’s body, told Ynet in January 2024 that New York Times co-authors Schwartz and Sella had “called me again and again and explained how important [her footage and testimony were] to Israeli hasbara.”[14][8]: ¶64  Wessely noted that Schwartz and Sella wanted “to know every detail”.[14] She said she understood that “there were disagreements within the [Abdush] family about the publication that she had been raped”, but stated her belief that Gal’s “voice should be heard, because her whole appearance screamed: ‘Look at me, hear me, I was raped, I was murdered.’”

      Again, i feel like the gravity of it cannot be understated. This piece was clearly a propaganda piece to help Israel maintain its image as the ICJ demanded measures to be taken by Israel to prevent committing genocide against Palestinians. Even as the evidence came in, the NYT doubled down, despite full well knowing who and what it does propaganda for with this piece.

      The fact that the NYT occasionally lets Palestinian voices be heard only serves as a veil to create the idea of being unbiased. Again this is something that is well analyzed in “Manufacturing consent” and it isn’t exclusive to the NYT. Most corporate media acts in similar fashion.