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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 个月前

The myth vs the reality

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The myth vs the reality

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 个月前
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    It’s almost like 2 places can be shitty at once

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      almost like you’ve made a false equivalence here

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          From my sample size of one, the results are indisputable.

          What? That’s not how indisputable works.

          Also, what sample size, you’ve never been to those places so your sample size is zero.

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              I met a lady once who said she loved everyone and everything, so she obviously thought America & China are great.

              Your results are false.

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                Interesting. She didn’t do a survey though.

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              That’s an opinion and opinions can’t be wrong.

              Sounding pretty fuckin’ American there, buddy

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          why should anybody care where you’ll go

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            I do, I’ve met enough Klanadians for a lifetime

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              Ha

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            They shouldn’t, but I do.

            And China and America are both shitty places.

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              your uninformed opinion can be safely discarded

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                That’s just like, your opinion man.

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                  Nah these are basic facts of the situation that you’d know if you spent some time actually learning about the subject instead of making. clown of yourself online.

                  90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes

                  The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf

                  From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China’s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4

                  In fact, people in China enjoy high levels of social mobility in general https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html

                  Student debt in China is virtually non-existent because education is not run for profit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jlim/2016/08/29/why-china-doesnt-have-a-student-debt-problem/

                  China massively invests in public infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/12/05/china-used-more-concrete-in-3-years-than-the-u-s-used-in-the-entire-20th-century-infographic/

                  China also built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/high-speed/ten-years-27000km-china-celebrates-a-decade-of-high-speed/

                  All these things translate into tangible freedoms allowing people to live their lives to the fullest. Freedom can be seen as the measure of personal agency an individual enjoys within the framework of society. A good measure of whether people genuinely feel free is to look at what people of the country have to say on the subject. Even as mainstream western media openly admits, people in China overwhelmingly see their system as being democratic, and the government enjoys broad public trust and support.

                  • https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176
                  • https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2021/0218/Vilified-abroad-popular-at-home-China-s-Communist-Party-at-100
                  • https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
                  • https://web.archive.org/web/20230511041927/https://6389062.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/6389062/Canva images/Democracy Perception Index 2023.pdf
                  • https://www.tbsnews.net/world/china-more-democratic-america-say-people-98686
                  • https://web.archive.org/web/20201229132410/https://en.news-front.info/2020/06/27/studies-have-shown-that-china-is-more-democratic-than-the-united-states-russia-is-nearby-and-ukraine-is-at-the-bottom/
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                    What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?

                    And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.

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                    What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?

                    And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.

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                    What about the Uyghurs? Do they get to enjoy all this?

                    And yes I am absolutely clowning on you to see how long it would take to get a canned response like this one.

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