Soon: reels, shorts, videos and second hand underwear.
They’ve had the first 3 for a while
which I hate… especially the “shorts”…
tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control… I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)… but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.
People be like “parent’s should take responsibility for their kids”… I’m like “mf, I’m trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media” And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it’s not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.
At that point I’d just say “we’re not going to use Spotify any more” and switch to something else.
Such as?
I’ll start: Tidal, SoundCloud, Deezer (has ties to Russian oligarchs so gotta be careful)
There are plenty of music services that aren’t trying to do that.
What the hell!
I was just kidding/projecting on a shitty future…
And Stories. Don’t forget stories
Bring back the ruthless top 8 friends.
I just had my 8 variations of parodied Jesus.
What like in Jira?
Nope. AI chatbots. Can’t have chatbots without messaging.
Recently ditched Spotify, and you should too.
what alternative did you end up going with?
I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but…yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn’t feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.
If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I’d switch right now.
I switched to Qobuz. They use https://soundiiz.com/ to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?
I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.
Another updoot for Qobuz. Very happy with it, and the migration process was even better for me than as you describe it. Also, I didn’t think I’d give a shit about it the higher-quality codecs but they’re actually amazing. Big fan, A+++, would Qobuz again.
Yeah the high res masterings are fantastic
I’ve been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify’s weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.
Also, it’s maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier’s features at the lower one’s cost
Listenbrainz is the best for discovery no matter what platform. Its opensource last.fm
I wish there was a better way to scrobble from Tidal to Listenbrainz on Android. I know that the Listenbrainz app itself can read system notifications and get song info from them. But the fact that you need to give permission to it for all types of notifications is not an easy decision to make.
I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.
The one owned by a Russian billionaire?
Wooooooot? How did I miss that during my research?
Access Industries is owned by Leonard Blavatnik and has a 41% stake in Deezer.
nope just tried it, desktop app doesn’t work on my distro, can’t delete the account now as the deletion method via the website doesn’t work.
Yeah, it doesn’t have a native Linux client.
I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.
There used to be some programs that ripped directly from Spotify API. Did those all go the way of the dinosaur?
zotify
You, good sir, ma’am or other, are a scholar and a gentle human.
ah this was EXACTLY what I was looking for! thanks!
Always looking for new members who love music :)
Apple music. High bitrate and aptx on android. And they pay artists more than Spotify. I moved over a while ago but I used some website to transfer over all my music.
Edit: looks like apple music might have the ability to transfer your music built into it now?https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/26/apple-music-transfer-tool-6-more-countries/
+1 for Apple Music. I know, “boo Apple!” And all that, but it fits well within the Apple one subscription and they pay artists well. Sound quality is good, discovery is good, supported everywhere.
I’m a Linux–Android user and Apple Music is the closest I’ve found to Google Play Music’s library management (the best there ever was). So it’s what I use.
use ymusic with no ads for youtube
I would gladly have you leech 5000 songs off me in Soulseek if it meant Spotify was losing a customer.
Same! It decided ‘fuck em all’ and just downloaded all my music locally. It took some time to find a decent music player, but ended up with Musicolet, it’s a fantastic local music player. The way I see it, I’ve paid for Spotify for years, so I don’t feel bad about downloading all the music I had on there. Any new music I want I’ll just straight up buy myself.
Let me just listen to music please…
I picked up some mp3 players with Bluetooth for about $7 each on aliexpress. Just finished acquiring my entire Spotify liked list. In my house, we’re getting back on the correct timeline.
I gotta ask - why not just play the music on your phone?
It’s 6 years old and the battery isn’t removable. Plus I can leave the mp3 synced to the speakers all day and not have to worry about calls or leaving the house interrupting it.
Ah, I see. I was for some reason only assuming portable use. Hope it’s working well for you!
Love that. How long did it take you?
In total, less than an hour of my time. Maybe 6 hours to copy the playlists and download all of them, but I only had to copy/paste and hit go on the software. Honestly, if I knew it was this easy I’d have do we it years ago.
When you see things like this remember that you’re paying for this. Stuff like this is why the price has gone up again.
They had a good thing near perfect but they kept adding useless features and bloating the app and price. I need to cancel this shit but my grandma loves it.
Once they brought on Podcasts and wouldn’t stop shoving Joe Rogan on every screen I absolutely cancelled. I never listened to a single podcast on there yet they were the overwhelming majority of my recommendations. I was also getting annoyed with the random pop-ups of ‘hey wanna try this band that sounds absolutely nothing like anything you’ve ever listened to on our platform before?’…nope! Didn’t need Audible either. The price just kept going up…like guys, I want a music app. That’s it. Nothing else.
Uninstalled Spotify over a year(or 2 or 3?) ago…don’t really miss it.
I am not paying for this :)
you shouldn’t either
I have to because my grandma spent so much effort learning how to use it and she loves it.
People will use every one of these horrendous messaging subapps but scoff at the idea of downloading signal or even whatsapp.
It’s a good thing that people refuse to download Whatsapp/Meta crap
All I wanted was cd quality audio (which I’m willing to pay for)…
You know you’ve screwed up when the lazy people (me) actually get off their butts to switch.
Ha same, just moved to quboz. The family plan is actually less
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I’ve been saying for years the thing Spotify needs are short vertical format video clips. The whole “music” thing is a fad.
Internet company invents a whole new way to receive unsolicited pictures of genitals
Zawinski’s law: Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot expand are replaced by ones which can.
This is just the modern equivalent: Intra-site messaging.
NSFW bots sending you spam links and crypto scammers. Yea !!!
Why
I stopped using Spotify years ago and every time I hear about it I only get my decision further reinforced. What an absolutely cancerous company.
Did a Google engineer make his way to Spotify
The post I was on 5 seconds ago was about imugur and how people where confused when they added posts and comments to the image hosting site. Everyone wants a poece of the social media pie…but we need the infrastructure, the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
…the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
It’s never free. The instance you’re using isn’t free; it’s paid for by donations. ISPs and server hosts don’t just give bandwidth out of charity or for the public good. One way or another, these for-profit companies are getting their pound of flesh, typically by selling targeted ad space.
The fact that these companies are adding chat features means they’re now going to try mining conversations for additional consumer profile data points, which they can then sell to advertisers.
This new change is gross, and I hope nobody uses it.
Which they can sell to
advertisersLLM and AI companies.It’s not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There’s no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.
The main problem is that we ran out, there’s no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don’t create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It’s a new source of data to sell to data brokers.
Barf. I try hard not to think about it, since it’s shoved in our faces at every turn, but you’re absolutely right that our data is going to these AI corpos.
Just finished a Tidal trial and really liked it. Then I found out it’s owned by Block who owns Square. Jack Dorsey is CEO of Block.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
At least tidal pays the artists more
You may be right, but there are less shit services. I’ll try quoboz or deezer before giving my money to jackasses like Dorcey or Spotify owner funding AI weapons.
