Literally the worst possible champions of this cause.
First they came for my tendies…
Sir this is a Wednesday’s
Wendy’s sells tendies and i got GBP to spend
They come for the things nobody would be caught dead defending (often even people who privately engage in it) first. Look at how during the thing with payment processors and porn games, some people were saying they didn’t mind if it were just the rape games being banned. Those are used as justification for speech restrictions to the public.
(I don’t even think KiwiFarms should be legal personally, Chris Chan’s story should be considered evidence enough that they’re a harassment forum)
I’m just saying like I oppose the death penalty, but there are certain cases where I’m not going to die on that particular hill. I don’t believe they should be killed, but the context of the moment is going to alienate more people than it convinces.
Same thing here. I oppose identification laws but making that argument in defense of those two is going to make folks think it’s a fanatical position rather than a reasonable one.
It’s far better to argue from a reasonable position and then extend that to other cases than just argue these places should be allowed to continue to weaponize anonymity.
One I heard recently is a murder case. I’d say it sounds like murder but fuck it he deserved to die
Who cares? Nobody else is fighting this crap.
Now 4chan becomes the face of resistance to this shit, and people will think it is only being opposed by a bunch of deplorable incels. It delegitimizes the entire opposition - you can’t speak out against it any more without being associated with 4chan and whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
At least that’s the risk, and that’s why I wish these sites would go die in a hole rather than involve themselves with things I care about.
Tbh, I don’t know why a push by more left leaning sites hasn’t happened? This would at the very least show the broader unpopularity of the age verification law among pretty much both sides.
Because they have too much shame.
It takes the shameless to stand for freedom most of the time.
Which means frequently it’s the worse kinds of people, the loudest and the most shameless. Who start. Others then follow once the ice is broken.
Yeah, everyone and their dog should jump on this.
One problem is that quite a lot of left leaning people support this. Certainly in the UK the Labour Party has been paternalistic for a long time, thinking that the public are not able to look after themselves when it comes to having liberties. On issues like this there’s little between labour and Tories, with them swapping places quite frequently.
We haven’t had a socially liberal government in 70 years at least.
What’s a left leaning site that has lots of ‘adult’ or ‘harmful’ content?
I guess the parts of the fediverse that allows adult content. There’s a lot of people on the fediverse dedicated to supporting sex workers and stuff like that. None of these sites or users are in a position to sue the UK though, I’m just giving a pedantic answer to your question.
You’re right.
whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
Nazis.
Wikipedia also sued but lost
Wikipedia’s case was odd. They tried to fight that the act was illegal rather than them being caught by it was wrong (good for them), but did so by arguing that the Minister was uninformed and acted irrationally, which is a non starter.
The judge said that they can still contest whether they should be caught by the act. It sounded like the judge felt they’d have a decent case.
Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently.
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Is there some way they could both lose?
Hey 4Chan was a big reason behind no one taking Scientology seriously anymore
Project 2025 and Curtis Yarvin have direct ties to 4chan as well. Maybe not the horse you wanna hitch to.
Who the fuck is Curtis Yarvin? And what the shit does P25 have to do with 4Chan?
Those are great questions to start with on your search engine of choice! If you’re more of an audio person, I find this podcast to be a great overview.
The polite version of lmgtfy
No thank you, I don’t do podcasts
Well, then my favorite search engines are Kagi and DuckDuckGo.
Direct ties? They’ve trip-fagged once on it or something?
While Project Chanology has roots to 4chan, it was more of a collaborative effort between various other “chan” boards, the SomethingAwful forums, and various other pre-reddit forums, under the Anonymous banner. Also, about a few months into those protests, a lot of the 4chan kids specifically thought it was becoming cringe and bounced.
2003: If our privacy and freedoms on the internet are ever in peril, don’t worry, there will be an uprising and our governments and tech corporations will come to our defense.
2025: i did NOT have 4chan will come to our aide on my bingo card…
Even earlier than 2003.
Both earlier and later, i’m personally more interested to gather the transition date between when someone thought we’d take care of it and the realization that noone was going to take care of it.
I never expected to be cheering for 4-Chan and kiwi farms but it’s 2025 and nothing makes sense anymore.
The enemy of your enemy is your enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.
But it’s still fun to shake the jar and watch 'em fight!
Same here.
nazi porn-enjoyers vs nazi government ultimate showdown
Everyone should sue those fuckers. Taking away the last pieces of our freedom.
Who is even running 4chan nowadays?
I heard it was a hacker named 4chan.
did hacker go by this name prior to successfully taking over 4chan? that’s the question
I assume the FBI or CIA
Its a recruitment portal, basically.
Last I heard 4chan-ers were referring to the owner as “Jap-moot”
Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel and current owner of 2ch.sc
So 4chan that said they wouldn’t pay the UK fine as the UK doesn’t have jurisdiction over companies based in the USA is going to sue UK over stuff that 4chan can’t be responsible for?
4chan will sue the UK trying to hold them responsible for UK law, in US court. Foreign judgement limiting freedom of speech. Seems to be in line with their strategy of not being an UK company so not paying fines: “Your laws don’t apply to us. Hell, they aren’t even constitutional!”.
It’s more than that. They argue that the whole network that we call the Internet was invented and is currently maintained by America (and they are not wrong), that other nations failed to invent and deploy competitive solutions and UK trying to enforce some rulings on an American network is absurd.
the Internet was invented and is currently maintained by America
why do I expect anything from 4chan?
Well, technically, if you look at
- who manages and sells IP addresses allocations IANA
- which organization controls domain name systems, top level domain naming and registrar assignments ICANN the USA has critical foothold in controlling the internet.
Hey, downvoteers, go read the first page of the lawsuit. Thank you.
if kiwi farms was a person I would bully the crap out of it until it shit it’s pants and then I’d lock it in a closet with its shitpants
If kiwi farms was a person, I’d throw them off a bridge and shit on their broken corpse
Wow.
You must be a fan, to be so light and kind about it.
Wait until they sue Mississippi
The nihilist school shooters of the world are way more litigious than I thought possible.
Good.
The complaint is hilarious. So on brand.
I guess they’ll win. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens then.
If the world goes to shit but Kiwi Farms is destroyed, I will have a moticum of warmth in my blood.
