• Redex@lemmy.world
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    I mean, of all the things to cut off of them, Chrome made the least sense to me. It’s not a profitable part of the business, it would just die if spun off. The only reason Firefox is alive is because Google is funding them. Plus changing what browser you use is much easier than some of the other monopolies they have (Android, ads, YouTube).

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    So they found Google guilty of monopolistic practices then agreed to do nothing about it.

    Sounds about right.

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    With reports of Elon Musk eying to buy Chrome or OpenAI… sorry but I believe this was the best outcome, what we need is people using more Firefox that is one of the few non-Chromium browser out there.

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      Was that anything more than just rumors? Letting a currently monopolistic company keep the browser because another bad billionaire might buy it and do something bad with it just prevents anything from changing.

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      Yeah, i had the same thoughts. The current chrome is better than the “Hitlerdidnothingwrong AI-First” browser those goons would have cooked up…

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    Who cares about chrome? Of all the things Chrome is the easiest to replace. Android is the real deal.

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      You think other companies would provide sideloading like samsung, and oneplus? They would lock the OS hard and make it difficult to even unlock. Making android more closed than before.

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        Well then why aren’t they doing so now? They’re already maintaining their own forks of android, should be pretty trivial to do.

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          They need to maintain compatibility with play services to access apps on play store.

          Also, starting with OnUI 8 bootloader unlocking is no longer supported. On OxugenOS 16 its only allowed with restrictions. The hardening is already started.

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                you said this:

                They need to maintain compatibility with play services to access apps on play store.

                but that does not explain why don’t they already block installing 3rd party apps. they don’t need to allows this to oeep access to the play store.

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                  Samsung blocks installing apps outside Playstore if you enable their advanced blocker mode. Xiaomi also warns and shows a pop-up for 10-30s preventing it.

                  Pixel’s advanced protection mode does the same.

                  Also, when i metioned that I was talking about OEMs forking android and making it harder to use per your needs. Which would mean modifying android which could mean failing some CTS tests for play services. Boot loader unlocking is already on the verge of being killed. Installing apps and other things you currently do on your android could be next if OEMs were allowed free reign.

                  I received quite a few responses about apps when I wanted to Highlight the bootloader unlocking, custom ROMs, root, etc. I guess my comment was not too clear.

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          It’d probably take some sort of Linux Foundation style arrangement with manufacturers supporting a neutral team built from Google’s Android division.

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    How disappointing but expected. I’m not even sure what would break googles search engine dominance outside of search engines becoming obsolete. I use DDG and I find it to be better than google but still so many people stand by google search with strong loyalty.

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      I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.

      Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?

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        I moved to DDG because I felt Google results were getting worse. You would search for something specific and instead just get varying degrees of the same article on different sites about it instead.

        Then I felt DDG was getting worse in just not always getting what was related, so I’ve moved to qwant.

        Other than not always getting geo-related results, the results have been the best I’ve seen in a while so I’ve stuck around for now.

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        I’ve had the exact opposite experience for the past year. I had to switch the default to DDG at work where I need to search for specific model numbers every day. I don’t remember the last time I actually Googled something on the PC or phone (Firefox search bar with DDG default). I only use Google for maps where it’s always been the best.

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        The only time I ever need to use a google bang is when im searching for something specifically local like a restaurant. DDG uses apple maps and apple maps is complete garbage.

        When I cant find something on DDG and I use the !g 99% of the time I cant find it on google either.

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            Exactly why the freedom for users to choose between different software is so important :)

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        It really seems to depend on the topic. I would say, on average DDG is better from my experience. However, when it doesn’t work it really doesn’t work. Google usually has something you want fairly early in the results.

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        Try search aggregators, at least the fingerprint won’t be attached to you (with some at least)

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      Oh come on now. All of the strong options would have worked. Don’t let Google buy its competition off. Don’t let Google buy it’s default position. Don’t let Google control the browser. That’s it, problem solved.

      You claim people are loyal, but if that were true, the aforementioned payoffs would not exist.

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        Who would appeal? The case was started by the DOJ and the DOJ made this decision. Google apparently paid the requisite tribute to the Trump admin to make all of this go away, and so it has.

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    But he did…bar the search giant from making exclusive deals to distribute its search or AI assistant products in ways that might cut off distribution for rivals.

    Oh boy there goes Firefox

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    So they have to give away search data?

    Is there an antitrust on android or appstore ongoing?

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    I’m on ecosia with okay search results. Sadly if I know it exists but still having problems I resist to Google but Supposedly ecosia plants trees with some of the revenue