The US government seized nearly 1 million barrels of Iranian crude oil allegedly bound for China, according to newly unsealed court documents and a statement released by the Department of Justice on Friday.
Then they should take the ship, and give back the oil. This isn’t about law, it’s about power and control. And it should be considered wrong by any decent, civilized person.
I think you are being unreasonable in that argument. It’s not like they have the oil in cargo containers and can transfer it from one ship to another outside of port. The oil IS the ship.
Sure they could dump it in the ocean? Which would be the dumbest of all options.
Or they could seize the ships, and tow them back to port. Which looks like the options they took.
The logistics are pedantic. They took the ships under civil forfeiture. Made the company pay to transport the oil to Houston. Took the oil and sold it. They could have left the oil. Arrested the captain and crew. And fined the company. They stole it for… reasons.
Another country? What are you talking about my dude? An American company bought oil from Iran (in violation of US law), and had the oil they bought seized.
It takes all of three minutes to click through to the court order here. All three companies do significant business in the US, but the money to buy the oil was US dollars, and came from Oaktree Capital which is based in Los Angeles.
Which is (and this might be a shocker) in the USA.
Iran is not the USA. The sanctions aren’t recognized. Therefore, any laws America makes does not have to be complied with.Your arguing US law. I’m arguing international. They are not the same. The United States of America does not have authority over the world, despite what you wish. Source. Even the UN says the sanctions are illegal.
Maybe you should explain how it’s okay for America to steal from another country?
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Then they should take the ship, and give back the oil. This isn’t about law, it’s about power and control. And it should be considered wrong by any decent, civilized person.
I think you are being unreasonable in that argument. It’s not like they have the oil in cargo containers and can transfer it from one ship to another outside of port. The oil IS the ship.
Sure they could dump it in the ocean? Which would be the dumbest of all options.
Or they could seize the ships, and tow them back to port. Which looks like the options they took.
You should read up on what’s happening before commenting.
So now I have to prove my geopolitical stance on an engineering and logistics problem?
I can only give the facts, what people do with the politics is their own prerogative.
The logistics are pedantic. They took the ships under civil forfeiture. Made the company pay to transport the oil to Houston. Took the oil and sold it. They could have left the oil. Arrested the captain and crew. And fined the company. They stole it for… reasons.
Another country? What are you talking about my dude? An American company bought oil from Iran (in violation of US law), and had the oil they bought seized.
You’re late. And that’s not what happened.
It takes all of three minutes to click through to the court order here. All three companies do significant business in the US, but the money to buy the oil was US dollars, and came from Oaktree Capital which is based in Los Angeles.
Which is (and this might be a shocker) in the USA.
Iran is not the USA. The sanctions aren’t recognized. Therefore, any laws America makes does not have to be complied with.Your arguing US law. I’m arguing international. They are not the same. The United States of America does not have authority over the world, despite what you wish. Source. Even the UN says the sanctions are illegal.
No shit… these companies operate in the US, which makes US law applicable to them.
Sigh…
So, what you’re saying is, international law should be superceded by domestic law?
international law?