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      • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.socialEnglish
        261·
        6 months ago

        Yeah. In retrospect, it always seems pretty stupid that we thought we could just resolve things with diplomacy and the rabid dog hanging around the building will probably just calm down and stay in the back section and we just won’t go there.

        I feel like escalating to war because that’s clearly what’s up, and whatever happens happens, oh well, is one of the few areas where Churchill had it 100% right in the lead up to the global war.

        • Komodo Rodeo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          43·
          6 months ago

          I’m still a little concerned about the presence of nuclear weapons in the mix. Retrospection about escalation pre-WWII seems to be slightly off the mark give the scale of the armament…

          • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.socialEnglish
            31·
            6 months ago

            Yes which is why it’s so important to react firmly to someone who’s deliberately playing brinksmanship with a nuclear-armed defensive alliance, so as to correctly pass the can-I-push-the-boundaries test Putin is giving here. This is like lesson #1 about dealing with bullies.

            I think they should have shot down the fighters and then sent footage of the falling wreckage to Putin overlaid with the “Curb Your Enthusiam” music and fade out with “Stay in your own airspace pls and thank you.”

    • wizzor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      14·
      6 months ago

      Turkey did it and look what happened to them!

      Their airspace was not violated again.

    • thejml@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      53·
      6 months ago

      Russia doesn’t seem like the kind of country that learns lessons like that. They’re more like the kind thats looking for reasons to start more wars.

      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        12·
        6 months ago

        Nah, Russia actually respects force because it’s one of the few languages they truly do understand. Putin flexes his power to see how much he can get away with, and only really backs down when others start flexing too. Turkey unflinchingly shot down two Russian fighter jets that entered their airspace. That was a decade ago, and Turkey hasn’t had an issue with them since.

      • Ksin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        6 months ago

        Worked pretty well for turkey, they shot down 2 russian fighter jets, resulting in the death of 1 pilot. Russia did not violate their airspace again.