• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Firstly, the term “monkeypox” is scientifically misleading. The virus is primarily transmitted to humans by small, forest-dwelling rodents, including species of squirrels native to Central and West Africa – not monkeys.

    The virus was originally named “monkeypox” because it was first identified in a group of monkeys in a European laboratory undergoing tests for the polio vaccine in the mid 1950s.

    The animals had contracted the infection before being shipped from Africa, most likely through hunting and consuming infected rodents.

    “I would even call it rodentpox than the mpox or monkeypox virus,” Dr Leandre Murhula Masirik, the doctor who discovered a new variant of the virus in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in 2023, told The Telegraph.

    Okay but like, how is this “anti-woke”? I’m not sure any “wokies” were raging against the term? Like was that a thing? I mean we still call it chicken pox? We call it bird flu? It seems like a name that was used originally/ colloquially, and even mpox isn’t “really” the scientific name? Its just a colloquial handle.

    idk. Much ado?

    Dug a bit more thinking there would be a more technical term for it. Nope. Its specific epithet is Orthopoxvirus monkeypox. I think Monkeypox might be the more technically correct term.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypox_virus

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      Alright Im gonna walk you through the mental leaps ive overhead my righty coworkers say, these are coming from their rational NOT mine:

      1.) Black people dont like being called monkeys 2.) I like pissing of black people 3.) There are scientists saying you shouldnt call it monkeypox, this is wokenonsense to protect black people that dont like being called monkeys 4.) Im gonna say moneky pox EVEN MORE, because i like pissing off black people

      Granted this is just like 3 especially awful guys at my place of work, but still

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        I assumed it was also to place blame on other, lesser, dirtier countries since there’s no native primates north of Mexico in the Americas. But I guess we could go straight to racism.

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        Yup, this is what I’ve heard too.

        The crazy thing is that the real reason is pretty woke too (mpox is language neutral, while monkeypox is explicitly English) but learning the real reason behind something is antithetical to their belief system so instead they make up shit they think a lefty would say instead.

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    I’m not getting how this is anti-woke. Wasn’t it first discovered in monkeys? What does mpox mean and why is that better? Can someone explain?

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      It was first found in monkeys, but actually originated in rodents. It should technically be rodentpox.

      Also, racists and homophobes used it to create stigma against gay men. In was/is particularly prevalent in that group. There were rumours that you caught it from sex with monkeys.

      Basically it was renamed to pull the teeth of a nasty and insulting use, and to break a misunderstanding on its source.

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        Does it? It seems like its actually obscuring the fact that actually the technical name for the species is Orthopoxvirus monkeypox.

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          Does the fact the technical name is wrong because of how it was wrongly classified just go right over your head then…?

          It came from rodents, it should be Orthopoxvirus rodentpox. And the article explains THAT. Sheesh it’s like you people can’t stand that something was wrong and is trying to be corrected, because of all the other drama.

          Again, this was ALL well explained in the linked article.

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            I linked above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypox_virus

            Its been 3 years and the Wikipedia, which I consider to a most reliable source (in general). They don’t use Mpox. They use Monkeypox.

            Its not a matter of anything going over any ones heads. I’ve at least studied these things (taxonomy and naming and nomenclature) specifically. The WHO isn’t necessarily some authority who creates these kinds of mandates. There are congresses on these matters for most domains where naming is important.

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              Wikipedia isn’t a source, use their sources as sources…

              And that article (yes Wikipedia is articles… and not sources) is a bloody mess anyways.

              Smallpox and monkeypox viruses are both orthopoxviruses, and the smallpox vaccine is effective against mpox if

              Symptoms of mpox in humans incl

              They don’t even know what to call it, and keep changing it throughout the article lol. So yeah, great source to use for what to call it… and cherry pick the one you want to boot!