Israeli foreign ministry posts video of Thunberg’s arrest; vessels carrying about 500 activists intercepted about 75 miles off coast of war-torn territory

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      hamas will be inspired by the boat trip and make peace. i can feel it. you can feel it.

      peace is in the air, thank you greta

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    So glad those Italian and Spanish ships did…

    Absolutely fuck all. Spineless.

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      They said from the beginning that they were only there to rescue anyone should they end up in the ocean. Not to protect the aid boats.

      The fact that they openly said that tells you all you need to know about thier governments.

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        bruh, just how much kiddie porn blackmail does israel have on the west…goddamn.

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          For once, it doesn’t have to be blackmail. The Zionists have Uncle Sam. Relations between the EU and the US are already not the strongest they’ve been. Risking the ire of a large power like that is not exactly smart diplomacy.

          Would it have been the right thing to do? Absolutely.

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      So glad those Italian and Spanish ships did…

      Being there likely saved Gretta from getting merc’d by an IDF sniper.

      They’re not doing enough, but they’re also not doing nothing.

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        they did absolutely nothing, stopped following then when they reach the orange line, which is not gazan or Israeli territorial waters, but the heart of the Mediterranean where Israel likes to attack civilians.

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        They literally turned around before they reached the Israeli boats. So no, that didn’t happen

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    I didn’t know that Israel is just casually pirating away in international waters. Weird how that’s not ok when somalians do it.

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    Oh phack! Again? Why can’t they just let Gretta win? Its just a few truck loads of food. WTF. This world is just so evil. How can any god let any of this happen?

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      the IDF/benny cant have a PR campaign against him, her being so infamous internationally brings more attention to the matter. hes already in a tenous position, he wants to stay out of jail from his previous crimes.

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      rational people would understand that either god doesn’t exist, or that he’s evil and should not be worshipped

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        Reading the Bible, I don’t know how you’d come to any other conclusion but that God is a Monster.

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        The Epicurian Paradox. God claims to be omnipresent, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. But the mere existence of evil overwhelmingly disproves this claim:

        1. If god is able and willing to stop evil, but evil is able to hide from/fool god, god cannot be omnipresent.
        2. If god is able to find all evil and willing to stop it, but unable to do so, god cannot be omnipotent.
        3. If god is able to find evil and stop it, but unwilling to do so, god cannot be omnibenevolent.

        In any of the three cases, if evil exists, god has been proven a liar in at least one of the three claims. Potentially two, or even all three. But at least one must be true if evil exists. And if at least one is true and god is a liar, why are we following him?

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        I also agree with this. Sure if one day something does show up, we can change our minds then. I’m sure the evil phuck would understand.

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      Gaza is under a siege designed to oppress and break the population so that they can’t fight back, israel forces control everything that goes in and use it as a tool to displace people.

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        Exactly! But we should still be good to each other. It feels better when everyone is happy.

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      Why can’t they just let Gretta win?

      I mean… They did, didn’t they? It was never the goal to actually get there. The goal was obviously media attention (again) and we are now commenting under a news article…

      Its just a few truck loads of food.

      That’s the point… Why let a few influencers enter a war zone with the risk of them getting killed when they could instead easily let a few trucks waiting in front of the boarder enter Gaza?

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        Yeah, why doesn’t Israel just let the trucks waiting at the border in? I wager it is the same reason they stopped the flotilla.

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      That’s probably the most compelling argument that ideas are more dangerous than weapons.

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    I am massivelly curious about what the reaction of Italian dockworkers to the Italian frigate doing jack-shit nothing will be …

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      Strike called in Italy, protests flare over interception of Gaza aid ships

      Italian unions called a general strike for Friday in solidarity with the international aid flotilla for Gaza, while protests sprang up in a number of cities late on Wednesday after reports that the ships had been intercepted by military personnel. In the southern city of Naples, demonstrators got into the main railway station and halted train traffic, while police surrounded the Termini railway station in Rome after protesters gathered close to entrances.

      In the northwestern city of Genoa, the USB announced that it intended to block the port and called on all protesters to gather at 10 p.m. (2000 GMT) at one of the main entrances. Over the past two weeks, protesting Italian dockworkers have prevented various ships from docking and loading, targeting vessels they say were involved in trade with Israel.

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    its kidnapping …

    Kidnapping or abduction is the unlawful abduction and confinement of a person against their will, and is a crime in many jurisdictions

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        Really? I wonder who Gazans and people from the west bank voted for in the last Israeli elections. Right, they’re under the control of Israeli occupation but can’t vote in the democracy, all millions of them. But you know, it’s also the only country in the world that explicitly states that it’s the country of all Jews in the world and not its citizens’. Remarkably democratic in fact, so democratic that it redefines democracy as ethno-supremacy.

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        Israel is a “democracy” as much as America is a “democracy”. I may have exaggerated a bit

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      Religion is fucking stupid anyway, so a theocratic country is extra stupid.

      Yep, which is why granting Palestine statehood would be also extra stupid.

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        I’m not a big fan of theocratic countries myself, but if my choices for the state of the world tomorrow morning are two theocratic countries or one theocratic country next to a field of charred bones, I think I could pick the former pretty easily.

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        Really? Now?

        Palestinians deserve their own state, religious or not, that is not for you to judge

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        Oh, ew. The preservation of Palestine is about the preservation of people and culture that have every right to exist. Not religion first (which isn’t wrong even if you are against it). This is a ghastly take.

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        A two state solution is what was agreed with the UN. Although it is sort of stupid to assume that the hate from either side will die down anytime soon, there are workable solutions like not having a Palestine state be propped up by Hamas. A terrorist group that was propped up by Netanyahi and who alongside Israel eliminated people’s ability to vote for new leadership, it’s clear that Israel wanted to stoke hate and a boogeyman they could also easily defeat.

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          Most countries agrees to have a palestinian state should be ruled by the PA and israel and the usa refuse any state. So stop using hamas as an excuse

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            What are you confrontationally blabbing about? If you agree that most countries agrees to have a Palestinian state should be ruled by the PA and Israel and the USA refuse any state, then we have no disagreement.

            How about you simply admit that what ticked you and other people downvoting my comment is the fact that I call out Hamas along with Israel? I realize there’s a lot of opposition being promoted by pro-Hamas groups, but they really don’t need to make it that obvious. Anyway, I’ll let you get back at your next attempt to gaslight me.

            Although I am surprised that you conceded to a two state solution. Now that there is consensus that Israel is performing genocide, there has been a change in the narrative towards a more of a “destroy Israel, our state is the rightful state” subtly, beginning by claiming that the two state solution is a Zionist lie along with the claim that a lot of people in Israel are discontented with Netanyahu, all to portray them as one great villain (sort of what Netanyahu and his far right buddiers are doing to Palestinians, too). Are you sure you’ve got the latest memo?

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              You are claiming that Hamas is the reason why there is no state, it is factually wrong. If you condemn hamas killing or attacking civilians , i eould havr no problem with that.

              Poor you crying about being downvoted

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                It is part of the reason there isn’t. Most of it is due to Israel, but that’s also why they propped up Hamas over the PA. Sorry not-sorry to have offended your pro-Hamas sensibilities.

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                  It is part of the reason there isn’t. Most of it is due to Israel, but that’s also why they propped up Hamas over the PA

                  Everything is due to Israel because even if Hamas is destroyed they will refuse to end occupation. Netanyahu said it there will be no Palestinian state because the land is our.

                  If you was alive during Nat Turner revolt you would have talked about how Nat Turner was part of the reason why slavery existed for long time instead of saying the salve owner was the only one responsible for it. If you where alive during a bloody revolt from indigenous people against the settlers you would have talked about how indigenous people was part of the problem. You have no moral and should be ashamed of your BS

                  Sorry not-sorry to have offended your pro-Hamas sensibilities.

                  I am offended by hypocrites like you who give excuse to the occupier to continue the occupation.

                  The PA is the one who allows Palestinians to be attacked by the settler terrorists and continue to respect the oslo accords that israel is not respecting everyday

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    Easy for me to say, they should have kept rolling and forced the Israelis to get violent. I’m American, with a few reasons to fear these our fascists, made my choice. If it comes to it, I fight. Neither my government nor Israel has shown any quarter, no reason not to die with our boots on.

    tl;dr: They’re going to kill you anyway.

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      If it comes to it, I fight.

      Tell me you’ve never been on a sailing yacht on the open seas deciding whether you’re going to try and ram your way through some navy ships without telling me you’ve never been on a sailing yacht on the open seas deciding whether you’re going to try and ram your way through some navy ships

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      Would be even funnier if they sent out a ship loaded with bombs in international waters and then detonate it when the Zionists put their nose where it doesn’t belong.