Feel like if it was another country they’d be sanctions or something already.

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    The rest of the world is slowly routing everything around the USA. Assuming things turns back, there will be a lot to rebuild in matter of trust and commerce.

    Now, if you’re talking about what happens inside the USA, well, what do you propose other countries do? Invade? Because that’s not happening. There’s enough to do for damage control outside of it.

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      Assuming things turns back, there will be a lot to rebuild in matter of trust and commerce.

      I’m not so sure about that. The US has proven that they’ll make a 180° turn on anything within just the blink of an eye. Even if the US turns back, there’ll be no guarantee it won’t elect the next batshit crazy person as president four years later.

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        It will take the US decades to rebuild trust. Its more likely the country decays some sort of hypercapitalist modern flavored feudalism with water slaves dying in the streets before other countries put long term trust in the US again.

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    The rest of the world has done various responses to the American trade war. Most everybody else has found other partners to do business with and those that haven’t are soon about to. America is not hurting other countries economically as much as they are hurting themselves. The entire ICE thing is terrible and it is too bad the government agencies have given in and that the military seems to be rolling with it too. But it is still domestic affairs as long there isn’t any proof of concentration camps or massacres or the like. We have lots of empathy for the people in America suffering from all of this.

    But then again…

    You guys have free elections and this is your democratically elected leader doing what he promised to do. You guys had him elected after he staged a failed coup once already. What do you expect the rest of the world to do about it? To save you guys from yourselves?

    Sorry, dude. We’re busy dealing with our own national problems, trying to block Chat Control in EU, support Ukraine and deal with the entire Russia scenario, try to stop the genocide in Gaza, and a bazillion other more pressing things than dealing with problems America had caused for itself.

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      Never fails to surprise me that there are people in the US who expect the world to fix this for them. Sorry, it’s your country, you’ll have to figure out how to take it back. In the mean time the rest of us will work out new trade deals with other countries and arm ourselves in case your government decides to take their shit across the border.

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          Fair, I made an assumption, however my general point still stands. on various SM sites I use, I’ve encountered quite a few from the US who have asked us Canadians to invade them, or for some other country to bomb them, it’s wild 🥴

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          Also worth noting that it is “everyone’s problem” as soon as US turns his military against other countries.

          For now it is Venezuela and maybe Nigeria,

          But here at South America we are “bracing for impact” even though we aren’t Venezuela per se.

          Trump already told he wants to annex Canada, Panama, Greenland and Vance already vented his distaste against Europe.

          It is just a matter of time before US turns against Europe.

          And then it will suddenly be a “World’s problem” because it only is a problem when the western civilization gets the wrong end of the stick.

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        Look, as an American, all I’m asking for is a little extrajudicial redition of Musk and Thiel by South Africa. If we could just get rid of some of the malevolent billionaires that have made the pilgrimage to the land of greed, we might stand a chance of holding on to some of our civil liberties.

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    trump is literally issuing sanctions on his own citizens and they applaud him for it. i don’t think sanctions will work here 🤷‍♂️

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    I think they’re just keeping their heads down and not poking the bear. He’s already blindly striking out at imaginary percieved insults. They’re just riding out the next few years and hoping to not make anything worse.

    Plus, it’s not their job. It’s the US’s job to clean up the bed they shit in.

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      Yeah, from the world’s perspective, this is a problem that solves itself in a few years. Plus, the idea of ‘doing something’ about a country is not a very common action. The most common action is to ignore the BS best you can, focus on building up allies, and focus on building up your own country.

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    Trump has inspired more trade side deals between countries than any US President in history. It will take 5-10 years to notice but it cannot be reversed and the US will feel the result of an isolationist economy like once Great Britain.

    Canada is signing new trade deals every month with not the USA.

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    Because the US is the biggest market and they’d rather make money then do the right thing.

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      most of the rest of the world - “someones got to be my exit-liquidity, might as well be the american working class”

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    Have a look into what other countries did with the rise of nazis.

    Business liked it.

    As a German, what do you think we could do? Even with our experience we’re having fun with the far right Afd and the other parties are basically doing everything to get more voters to them!

    Oh and we’re still highly dependant on us technology and services (ms, cloud, etc) although all this could be seen coming for years now. 🤷

    “nobody could’ve known!”

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    they are, by not giving tourism dollars to the welfare states, and not going to usa. plus the tariffs has caused china to redirect thier soy bean addiction to the same country that trump is bailing out. unfortunately they are finally starting to bailout soybean farmers as of recently.

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        Exactly. Nation states don’t need to do anything because the world’s economy is actively avoiding the US due to its instability and untrustworthiness.

        I can only imagine what the next generation is going to have to deal with. Kind of makes me sad.

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    Because they are too powerful as an enemy. If they were the size of denmark, they wouldnt get away with anything.

    The entire economy of the western world is also extreamly connected to the US. Our pension funds invest in their tech stocks, our financial systems use the dollar… And a lot more things that i dont even know.

    America is pretty much running the western world. Like it or not. :/

    They also spent almost all their money on weapons and high tech support systems. Their “defence” budget is larger than entire Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

    Just look at these numbers. America, almost 1000 billion dollars. China, 300 billion, Russia 150 billion, everyone else much much less.

    Its a crazy country.

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      Its not just the Western world.

      America got to define the new world order after world war 2.

      They accrued 75% of the worlds golds reserves selling weapons to allies.

      This allowed them to peg the dollar to gold under the Breton Woods system, making their currency the global reserve currency.

      Never mind that scientists and innovators had fled from Eurasia to the US for safety, causing a massive braindrain

      This is why they say they won WW2. They were one of few countries that had circumstances tip heavily in their favour due the war.

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        Yeah.

        I have mixed feelings about it. How would the world look if it was China or Russia that managed to do that? How would Europe look?

        I have so much western propaganda in me, that i cant judge how Russia or China would be. But looking at their current actions, its hard to see them being peaceful. America is also not peaceful though.

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      Yup. I changed my fund to one that has as few US stocks as possible this spring. All the sensible ones are ones that contain different index ETFs, so I went one with as little S&P500 exposure as possible.

      But this is just me and my five digits worth of euros. I can’t convince a meaningful amount of people to switch. If a million people did the same, it would be tens of billions in US stocks liquidated. It would be beautiful.

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        I actually dont think its gonna crash. People here disagree, but im used to that. Still think it wont.

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          Well the AI bubble might collapse. But I don’t envision a run on the stock market like the one that started the great depression either.

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    The US is already sanctioning itself through tariffs, and the rest of the crap is domestic problems.

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    US “allies” haven’t gotten the memo yet, US enemies aren’t going to interrupt America while it’s killing itself and non-aligned nations don’t give a shit. Human rights abuses are almost never the real reason for sanctions, just like the US didn’t invade Iraq to spread democracy.