A palliative care nurse in Germany has been sentenced to life in prison after he was convicted of the murder of 10 patients and the attempted murder of 27 others.
Prosecutors alleged that the man, who has not been publicly named, injected his mostly elderly patients with painkillers or sedatives in an effort to ease his workload during shifts overnight.
The article does not mention the evidence basis, so I will keep my comment general. In the Netherlands similar accusations were made against Lucia de Berk, the evidence was based on opinions of superiors and colleagues plus the statistical unlikelihood of so many patients dying under her supervision. But crucially there was never any direct evidence that she deliberately killed patients, and in the end it turned out that she didn’t. She was particularly unliked by her colleagues because she was a sex worker in the past and that is why she was given the worst shifts (and coincidentally the shifts where more patients die). In the end her life was ruined by her colleagues and the judiciary system not understanding statistics (5 percent of all nurses have a statistically-significant high death rate). Again this case could be a real psychopath but the fact that they don’t mention the evidence basis makes me think of Lucia de Berk.
the judiciary system not understanding statistics (5 percent of all nurses have a statistically-significant high death rate).
And for those in this thread who also don’t understand statistics, that’s because the threshold for statistical significance is usually 5% by definition and has nothing to do with nursing at all.
There’s a former nurse here in the UK called Lucy Letby who’s currently in prison for murdering several babies and attempting to kill more. There’s a campaign to get her released based on basically 3 strands.
The first is the fact that there’s no actual evidence that any of the deaths were not of natural causes. The second is the statistical argument. The third is that the police enlisted the help of people who worked with Letby to assess the evidence. As one person put it “how can any fair investigation be even partially carried out by people who the police should actually be treating as potential suspects?”
I have no ideas whether or not she’s guilty, but since i had previously heard of cases like the one you describe I’m definitely of the opinion that there should be a retrial.
the judiciary system not understanding statistics (5 percent of all nurses have a statistically-significant high death rate)
There was a study years ago in Norway where they wanted to see if there were correlations between any disease and living underneath high-voltage power lines. They found that 5% of all diseases were so correlated … when using an alpha of .05.
Like dude… JUST GET A DIFFERENT JOB. If that was actually why he started doing it. Of course, big if lol. Bro probably was just getting a power trip doing it. Sick freak
Where I live (Philly suburb) there was an incident where a guy driving a 12,000 gallon gasoline truck pumped out 4000 gallons at his first gas station stop and then decided he just wanted to go home rather than making the rest of his deliveries. So he ran the hose to the back of the station and dumped the other 8000 gallons onto the ground. This happened to be right above a creek and about 200 feet from an elementary school.
It just doesn’t make any sense how anybody could be this stupid. He got 20 years in prison for it or something like that. He certainly deserved it, but meanwhile executives who manage to create far worse disasters never see a day in jail.
It’s totally infuriating how that goes. Every few years some serial killer is exposed working in hospitals or care homes. Sobody really cares. This news about a serial killer killing 10 is not even headline news. Others have killed over 80 people and nobody really cares, nobody is trying to improve the situation so that people like them can’t kill. But if some migrant harms someone with a knife, everybody totally freaks out.
The media doesn’t care. People do, but the media hasn’t been for the benefit of the people for quite a while now.
That’s one way to get your break
When I’m in palliative care, go ahead and murder me tbh.
I think you mean hospice care. Otherwise, if you get in a bad car accident tomorrow you are requesting your nurse to kill you even if you are expected to recover.
I have also worked adjacent to hospice care and you would be surprised that people do recover from hospice care as well.
Palliative care is care for the terminally ill. You’re not recovering from that, although actual longevity can vary widely from doctor’s estimates.
No, that is hospice care.
Palliative care can be provided at any stage of a serious illness alongside curative treatments to manage symptoms, while hospice care is a specific type of palliative care for patients with a life expectancy of six months or less who have stopped curative treatments and are focused on comfort.
My cursory googling of definitions does not align with yours. Palliative seems to lean toward terminal illnesses, and your definition is largely only seen/used in the united states.
Fair enough, I worked adjacent with Hospice as a Care Coordinator for seniors. I am from Alaska so that is probably the difference. Cheers!
Palliative is essentially “we can’t do anything, we’ll make you comfortable”. It is NOT used for someone expecting to recover. I’m not why you think “hospice” nd “palliative” are mutually exclusive.
Not sure where you are getting this from. In the US and UK it does not mean you are dying, in fact you are still getting treatment. In the US this is termed as hospice care which is a part of palliative care when you are expected to die soon.
I looked it up in the UK and they call it end-of-life care which is also a form of palliative care.
I was a care coordinator for many years and I employed many personal care assistants that were trained by hospice nurses.
I received my fair share of employees calling balling their eyes out because their elder had passed away. I also have had the privilege of being there with several people who passed away.
I am from the Uk and it does mean you’re dying. I literally provided information from the National Health Service.
From NHS
"Palliative care is defined by the World Health Organisation as an approach that improves the quality of life of patients (adults and children) and their families who are facing problems associated with life-limiting illness, usually progressive. It prevents and relieves suffering through the early identification, correct assessment and treatment of pain and other problems whether physical, psychosocial or spiritual.
In England, the term ‘end of life care’ refers to the last year of life."
That’s is not what it says.
Literally provided the definition from the NHS. So perhaps it is different in your country but even googling doesn’t align with your definition.
I read it. See below.
"Palliative care is defined by the World Health Organisation as an approach that improves the quality of life of patients (adults and children) and their families who are facing problems associated with life-limiting illness, usually progressive. It prevents and relieves suffering through the early identification, correct assessment and treatment of pain and other problems whether physical, psychosocial or spiritual.
In England, the term ‘end of life care’ refers to the last year of life."
So it is exactly what I said. Something something reading comprehension.
Wasn’t this an episode of Dexter?
In the Dexter episode the nurse just hated and killed people with unhealthy lifestyles and causing extra workload for medical staff
Yeah actually it sounds just the same, life imitates art
There’s also The Good Nurse and Jessie Buckley’s character from Fargo season 4
It was also the revenge plot for season 2 of Scream Queens. Lazy pos hospital actively killed a dude that should have lived and said he up and abonded his family so they go back to the party.
If it’s the same as other country, patient dying in your work is the busiest part of the day. The paperwork, phone calls and wrapping the body. Most nurses pray for patients to die after they clock out due to paperwork alone.
That’s so unbelievably fucked up.
May he rot in a cell for the rest of his days.




