• Gympie_Gympie_pie@sh.itjust.works
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        They don’t pay taxes to the city of Rome either, despite using our services and infrastructures: they use Rome’s sewage system but don’t pay for it, they use Rome’s garbage collection system but don’t pay for it - we are talking about private homes, not just churches. They don’t pay for the police service, streets maintenance and so on. The Vatican is s literal parasite of the city of Rome and the Italian nation as a whole. They are not an independent state, they depend on us for everything, hence they should pay taxes for the social services they use.

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          These are just humble men of God. Where would they possibly get the money to pay for such things?

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          To be fair, this sounds like it’s also on the Italian politicians and therefore the Italian public for not having done anything. Just start charging them, what are they gonna do? Either cough up or become a stinking pile of shit.

    • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
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      Seriously, fuck the taxes. I mean, fine, tax them where you can, but that is BY FAR the least of the worries. Churches in the US are tax exempt because they are organized as non-profits and charities. You either have to change those tax laws or audit the shit out of each of them, neither of which is a quick or easy solution. 

      There’s two things I think can be done given the political will/public pressure. First, do not let institutions do like the catholic church does and let an individual diocese declare bankruptcy after losing a suit. The catholic church is a holistic organization and the entirety of the church should bear the blame for what it’s representatives did. Use the income of the entire church to determine damages, and make the church responsible for paying them. Seize assets if it declares itself unable to pay. Same with the mormons and any other religious institution.

      Second, send bishops and other administrators to jail for criminal conspiracy if they knew of an incident and covered it up. Set mandatory reporting requirements that disregard religious ideologies like the “seal of confession.” Treat it like the criminal conspiracy it is. In the US you can bring in the feds because they moved criminals between states to escape justice.

    • SlikPikker@lemmy.ca
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      Then seize property, then arrest high ranking members.

      The entire international agency is to blame

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      This is why I left the Catholic Church

      Nice, good

      and became a wizard

      uhhh…

      with unimaginable powers of alchemy and healing.

      Oh… okay… phew


      A real roller coaster, that one

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      became a wizard with unimaginable powers of alchemy and healing

      Is there a YouTube channel for that? Maybe a Great Courses Plus or a Coursera even?

  • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world
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    After the decades of one child sexual abuse case after the other coming out and time and again finding out higher ups in the church knew about this but just kept hiding it, are we really at all surprised? That level of corruption originates from the top down, not bottom up.

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      It will not surprise me to find out that one day they bust a Vatican City meth lab. Once you already got helping Nazis and child rape and tax evasion you might as well throw in meth production.

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        Meth seems a bit on the low end for the Vatican.

        They ought to be selling bio weapons, or nukes or something…

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      They’ve been sending white men to “teach” brown folks for centuries, of course they got a pipeline for that missionary position

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    “However, Coco noted that Koenig also urged the Holy See to not make public what he was revealing because he feared for his own life and the lives of the resistance sources who had provided the intelligence.”

    Koenig, for the 99% of people who don’t read past the headline, is the author of the letter in question.

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      You can take action without revealing your sources. Journalists and police officers do it every day. Politicians and businesses do it all the time. Yet the all powerful Catholic Church did nothing.

  • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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    This is completely unsurprising. Might be interesting to see how much communication there was between the Vatican and the Swiss banking cunts during that time though

  • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    These people aren’t dumb, they do it intentionally and know exactly what they’re doing. Probably to either control a narrative, religious political reasons, or just bigotry.