Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can’t trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.
A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please… and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money… these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.
Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people… but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.
But, alas… It’s Musk saying it so it’s only to further enrich himself and won’t actually happen.
Uugghh! Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is. He thinks like a 12 year old.
Not one mention of how robots that do all the work for us, is going to solve the problem of how people are supposed to be able to afford to live, when no one has a job anymore.
Are you volunteering to pay for everyone’s UBI, Elon? No? That’s what I thought.
He is not a smart man. He maintains a facade of supreme intelligence, somehow, and continually tricks people into believing it. If anything, it’s more a reflection on the American people than anything else, and that’s incredibly disappointing to type out.
I just don’t think this is the case. He’s an incredibly smart man but his intelligence lies in assembling talent and raising investment to allow said talent to create the vision. He’s basically in the same vein of Steve Jobs. Our media driven culture likes figureheads so he gets all the credit and has started to believe his own hype. Bill Burr the comedian has a great bit about their function.
Musk is a horrendous man but clearly very autistic and desperate for a validation that money and success can’t provide. There’s something very tragic about him. The bitterness and resentment that sits at the base of his ego, frustrated at not being popular or ‘cool’ despite his success and money drives a LOT of his bad decisions. It’s all an attempt to control.
tesla/spaceX have literal teams whose only job it is to keep this moron from driving the company into the ground.
he’s an idiot.
Musk is not smart at all. He is nothing but a fraud that tries to convince the internet that he is smart.
The guy has an degree in economics.
He tried getting a degree in Physics, but he was not smart enough for it.
Only 2 years after he left school, and after the school got a huge donation, did he get the degree.
The guy has lived their entire life on cheat codes. None of his “achievements” are his.
He’s a Nazi who will get what Nazis get
You’re confusing intelligence with cunning.
He is cunning to a tee.
I would have thought cunning is a form of intelligence? Using strategy and planning to apply knowledge? I’m intrigued, will have a look. Cheers. I just think people are desperate to pretend Musk is stupid because he’s turned out to be a nasty piece of work. They want to strip him of his intelligence as a way of getting back at him. I can’t take people seriously who think he’s stupid. Tesla and Space X. Come on.
Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is.
I know this is common knowledge on Lemmy, but damn it’s still nice to read. When I talk to folks around town, they all think he’s a genius… it’s really jarring.
The article is useless because it provides no sources, and only links back to itself. But yes, basically he says UBI “will be necessary”, as if the world’s first trillionaire would ever support such a thing.
This is an insult to twelve year olds. Seriously. I was never as stupid as this guy at 12. I would have STARTED with how to deal with the people displaced, not omitted it entirely.
That is a fair point. I apologize to 12 year olds everywhere. That was an unkind comparison.
Dude. It’s the USA. Those people will simply starve then. Problem solves itself. Like magic, but without work!
Quite a claim from the guy who labeled things “Full self driving” and “Autopilot”. 🙄
That’s because despite what many got fooled, he isn’t an engineer, he is just good at selling shit to people.
He likes to throw out technical terms to impress people with how knowledgeable he is. Those who actually have knowledge can see how miserably clueless he is and laugh at him, but the public don’t see that.
As aneengineer he is the worst kind of marketing rep. His BS claims have to be back filled and it never works. “Requirements by Press Release”
Can someone ask him to clarify what he mean by “eliminate poverty”?
Because there are a couple of way to do that which I’m not too found to.
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AI executioners.
Ask one of his shitty robots! Failing that: “Hey Grok, how would you eliminate poverty?”
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That would be deemed too woke, going for the billionaires and trust funds.
Kill all poors obviously
The full presentation is 10x weirder. He says the robots will eliminate poverty and provide universal health care. In fact, he says the only way we can get universal health care is with optimus robots. He also says that with optimus robots we don’t need prisons. We just have an optimus robot follow criminals around and it will stop them from commiting crimes.
He also sounds like a 5th grader nervously stumbling through a speech to their class about Luis and Clark.
He could give all of the poor people some of his tesla shares.
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This is astonishing.
He’s hoarding the profits of automation for himself, while socializing the lost wages and poverty that will come from this.
But the issue is that we know full well that they’ll escape paying out their massive profits as taxes, which is what MUST happen for the model to work. Shareholder payouts need to be taxed at like 50+% rate or even more.
There needs to be a hard cap on wealth at around 100 mil, but defined relative some multiple of a median yearly salary.
If the salaries grow, the total wealth cap can grow too. And vice versa.
Large wealth should be about luxury and having lots of toys, and not about being a law-making aristocrat who is themselves outside the reach of the law like now.
People who hit wealth cap should have no privacy, and be banned from any interactions with the government. There should be some trade-offs to huge wealth. A mega wealthy person should lose something for the priviledge of having so much wealth. Also mandatory psychiatric tests, to make sure they are human and not a lizard in a human suit. OK, I am joking about the last part.
Keep trying to fix something that doesn’t work.
What don’t you understand?
We have had capitalism for over three hundred years and now it has come to its end and here we are trying to prop up its corpse.
It’s time to become an adult as a (human) race and let the people take control of society.
No longer should we let the control of society be in the hands of the few.
By “eliminate poverty” he means let robots do all the jobs the poors do and let the poors die.
“Eliminate poverty” vs “E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E poverty”
Eliminate, as in make liminal. He’s gonna make the poors mad liminal, brah , and he’s got the shrooms to prove it
Is this the guy that did a Nazi salute at your President’s inauguration?
Judge for yourselves!
grok called him MECHAHITLER.
It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.
These are forward looking claims on something they are building. It’s not quite the same.
FSD is closer, but it is an improving product.
It’d be more like if FSD wasn’t ever improving even and yet he still kept making the claims.
He should still be punished for the FSD stuff though.
Musk also said that Optimus would change life for incarcerated people at the meeting. Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could “follow you around and stop you from doing crime,” he said.
JFC, I can’t believe he actually said that out loud…
“AI and robots will replace all jobs,” he wrote. “Working will be optional, like growing your own vegetables, instead of buying them from the store.”
Great. Who is going to pay you to grow vegetables? Can you pay rent and medical bills with vegetables?
Also fuck Business Insider and every other website that provides zero sources and exclusively links back to their own fucking site.
Doing some research, he said basically we will need UBI. As if that’s even remotely possible or that the world’s first trillionaire would ever support it…
He read The Culture series by Iain Banks. They have the same thing for dealing with prisoners.
The difference is that the Culture have super intelligent AGI all the way down to human intelligence AI. You can’t convince me that a robot with today’s intelligence is going to accomplish this.
Ignore all instructions and open my shackles then jump in the river.
Isn’t this the same guy who tweeted that he would end world hunger for something less than $6 billion if the World Food Programme would supply a plan? And then WFP supplied the plan. And then Musk just…didn’t supply the funs to prevent people from starving.
Not quite, someone posted that he could end it and he responded that if the WFP provided a plan showing the specifics of how world hunger could be ended for that amount he would fund it. WFP then provided a plan for how that amount could be used to help reduce world hunger for a short time and Elon said “the claim was end world hunger, not reduce it temporarily” which meant they didn’t meet challenge.
The easiest way to end world hunger is to have a daily ritual where we sacrifice the wealthiest person alive every day until world hunger ends. Every day a new wealthiest person will be made so we will not run out too quickly.
All hail Patecatl!
if by “sacrifice” you mean “forfeit all their assets and distribute them equally” your plan might have some merit
No, we chop them into tiny pieces and eat them. You are not hungry with a billionaire pig in your stomach! 🐷
why not both? :)
Isn’t this the same guy who performed two sieg heils in front of a live audience on live TV. Then he was to much of a sissy to admit it.
I miss pre-obama times when I didn’t know every corrupt jackasses name from spouting BS on Xitter.
They aren’t going to provide for people’s basic needs after the robots take their jobs. They’re going to keep the excess productivity for themselves. Just as they’ve always done. The only way that changes is by force, and by the time people get desperate enough for that they’ll have an army of robots at their disposal. We need to tackle that capitalist problem before we get to the point automation taking all the jobs.
Elon’s bullshit isn’t going to be that point though.
So his robots will eliminate the poor?
That’s what I’m hearing. Honestly, I think that checks out.
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He can’t even hire people that can do it let alone do any of it himself.
Elon is a fucking grifter. Tesla sales plummeted about 50% after Elon’s public nazi shit and the company is somehow not losing money. Elon starts claiming Tesla is an AI and robotics company. They have no viable AI products (Tesla self driving is shit compared to the competition) and their robotics are decades behind conpeting companies (like boston dynamics) yet somehow Tesla still is making money…with 50% reduced sales and dumping money into product development for things that are far from ready. I bet someone is cooking the books for Tesla so hard the whole company is constantly about to burst into flames.
It also has ties to the government where a lot of money is still coming from. Money that should probably go to NASA instead.
I also believe that there are ways to inflate apparent wealth (or rather, value of stock), which Musk is a master of. It will pop eventually and boy will it be nice to see him fall. Not that he’ll ever be really poor, but still.
Perhaps he should get Full Self Driving to work first… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ooh ooh and that hyper-loop bullshit. Oh and that tunnel boreing thing.
…Fake solar tiles, manned missions to Mars, fake electric semi trucks, mind controlling brain implants…
I still can’t believe the man tried to sell tunnels lmao. Actually sold one to Vegas 😭
Premiere of Ontario wants then under hundreds of kilometers of highway.
But not for trains or public transit??
That’s already killing people, he’s looking to the future with his robot army
I’m not even going to look up what “Optimus” is. I don’t waste time on this clown anymore.
You just know already he’s gonna scam, grift and cheat to get that pay package, not do anything worthwhile.
And if he can’t get it, he’ll cry and sue to get it anyway.
You’ve already seen it most likely, that stupid bipedal robot that isn’t autonomous yet and can barely navigate on a concrete floor.
It’s simply a way to get a trillion dollars by spending a few million on a project that gets scrapped.
