Take Rojava as an example: they built a system of councils that didn’t yield any real power until their day came (2011 if I’m not mistaken) and after the revolution, there was no power vacuum but this decentralized system took over. Same idea is anarcho syndicalism: they do union work now but are ready to run the factory/company when the opportunity is there.
Would you say the same about the Zapatistas? Or the Makhnovshchina. They fought against the Bolsheviks so in your black white thinking, they are evil, right? But back to West Asia: the common interest they share with the USA is to fight the IS or Islamism in general. The USA supported islamists when they fought against communists. Isn’t this “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” logic that made the US support Islamists until they didn’t and now Rojava got a little support but that doesn’t mean any ideological alignment as you seemed to imply.
Also, it’s not a state but I don’t expect tankies to get that.
Not sure, to be honest, I would have to read more about the Zapatistas. They absolutely are a micronation with no geopolitical power whatsoever, though.
Or the Makhnovshchina. They fought against the Bolsheviks so in your black white thinking, they are evil, right?
I never called Rojava evil, and I don’t think they’re evil, so don’t put those words in my mouth. Regarding Makhnovshchina: if they weren’t capable of enduring a civil war-destroyed red army, how were they supposed to survive Nazi genocide? How is a loose set of preindustrial farmers going to stand a chance against total extermination by an industrial power? And no, Vietnam isn’t an example because Vietnam was well funded and armed by the Soviets. No Soviet weapons, no Vietnam.
Well, I would read less into your comment if it was clearer. I explained the concept of prefiguration with Rojava as an example and you brought up that they have the same interests as the USA. So what is the implication or relevance here? Are you saying they wouldn’t have made it without the USA, that the USA helped them build the structures before the revolution or during or after? Or that it’s a USA backed coup? Which is it? You can’t write obscure comments and whine for being misunderstood.
My implication was simply that they are allowed to exist because they happen to align with geopolitical US interests in the region, and otherwise would have likely disappeared.
You didn’t respond to my comments on the Machnovschina
So your comments had nothing to do with the topic I was talking about, yet you expect me to engage with every detail of your offtopic comments, I see.
If you are interested: Gelderloos argues in Worshiping Power (worth a read and you find it on theanarchistlibrary.org) that decentralized guerrilla tactics are very good at defending, while being bad at conquering. If this would be enough to withstand between two imperial powers is very doubtful. I never said that anarchist movements in the broader sense are stronger, I would say tho they are worth fighting for. But you are aware that the Soviet Union doesn’t exist anymore either, right? And other Bolshevik adjacent movements were crushed by the USA. The line of argument you are using against anarchism can be used by liberals against Marxism Leninism. If you want to join the winning team, it isn’t any kind of socialism.
Where?
Take Rojava as an example: they built a system of councils that didn’t yield any real power until their day came (2011 if I’m not mistaken) and after the revolution, there was no power vacuum but this decentralized system took over. Same idea is anarcho syndicalism: they do union work now but are ready to run the factory/company when the opportunity is there.
Take [irrelevant microstate with same interests in the region as the USA] as an example:
Would you say the same about the Zapatistas? Or the Makhnovshchina. They fought against the Bolsheviks so in your black white thinking, they are evil, right? But back to West Asia: the common interest they share with the USA is to fight the IS or Islamism in general. The USA supported islamists when they fought against communists. Isn’t this “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” logic that made the US support Islamists until they didn’t and now Rojava got a little support but that doesn’t mean any ideological alignment as you seemed to imply.
Also, it’s not a state but I don’t expect tankies to get that.
Not sure, to be honest, I would have to read more about the Zapatistas. They absolutely are a micronation with no geopolitical power whatsoever, though.
I never called Rojava evil, and I don’t think they’re evil, so don’t put those words in my mouth. Regarding Makhnovshchina: if they weren’t capable of enduring a civil war-destroyed red army, how were they supposed to survive Nazi genocide? How is a loose set of preindustrial farmers going to stand a chance against total extermination by an industrial power? And no, Vietnam isn’t an example because Vietnam was well funded and armed by the Soviets. No Soviet weapons, no Vietnam.
Well, I would read less into your comment if it was clearer. I explained the concept of prefiguration with Rojava as an example and you brought up that they have the same interests as the USA. So what is the implication or relevance here? Are you saying they wouldn’t have made it without the USA, that the USA helped them build the structures before the revolution or during or after? Or that it’s a USA backed coup? Which is it? You can’t write obscure comments and whine for being misunderstood.
My implication was simply that they are allowed to exist because they happen to align with geopolitical US interests in the region, and otherwise would have likely disappeared.
You didn’t respond to my comments on the Machnovschina
So your comments had nothing to do with the topic I was talking about, yet you expect me to engage with every detail of your offtopic comments, I see.
If you are interested: Gelderloos argues in Worshiping Power (worth a read and you find it on theanarchistlibrary.org) that decentralized guerrilla tactics are very good at defending, while being bad at conquering. If this would be enough to withstand between two imperial powers is very doubtful. I never said that anarchist movements in the broader sense are stronger, I would say tho they are worth fighting for. But you are aware that the Soviet Union doesn’t exist anymore either, right? And other Bolshevik adjacent movements were crushed by the USA. The line of argument you are using against anarchism can be used by liberals against Marxism Leninism. If you want to join the winning team, it isn’t any kind of socialism.
Sorry you’re getting downvoted by the tankies.
I didn’t expect otherwise but thanks for your empathy
Jesus Christ, get a grip. They’re just down votes.