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    2 days ago

    I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don’t agree with murdering people.

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      21 hours ago

      When it comes up, which isn’t too often, I find I’m not really the model archetypal .ml user in outlook and have run afoul of a few people that took exception to that there, but that came in the form of angry comments about the thing I said and either the literal meaning of it or sometimes what they took it to mean, and for a forum that seems entirely appropriate. I was briefly banned from one of the communities there once too because I was accused of being a bot. Funnily enough I actually didn’t notice that and it had been overturned by the time found out there was a modlog and figured this out.

      It would be hard for me to know obviously, but based on this experience, it doesn’t seem to me that they’re particularly ban-happy, particularly not instance wide. Kind of a bummer that happened to you. I’m fairly happy basing my account there and speaking my mind when I see fit. I do pick up the prevailing winds and can accurately presume what would and wouldn’t be taken well, but I don’t generally feel a need to self-censor or worry about bans.

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        17 hours ago

        My ban has been lifted now. Are you able to tell me how to find the modlog? I’d like to see what they actually banned me for. There was a point where I said I thought Russia should be broken up and given to it’s neighbors and they started responding by claiming I wanted nuclear war and posting pictures of Hitler. It was pretty over the top. I am wondering if that was what got me the ban. When I log in to my ml account I can’t find anything, no message or anything, that says what the ban was for.

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      1 day ago

      If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

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        Oh, hi, it’s Mr Asymmetric Demands for Proof again!

        How about for a change, you go and dig about in the modlog instead of demanding everyone else does?

        Provide a witness statement that you found out their .ml username and searched the modlog and found nothing, and you’ll lend your viewpoint a shred of credibility. But without that, all we have to go on is your weird demands for proof that behaviour we all know the .ml mods are renowned for actually happened again for the 1758th time.

        If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

        I say that you argued with me for hours and hours yesterday after I said that you were as unnecessarily argumentative and bad at backing down as the person you were calling toxic. I recall finding it amusingly ironic. I remember you being particularly upset when I pointed out that calling me names wasn’t really proving me wrong. That’s when you started swearing at me in DMs and calling me things you weren’t prepared to call me in public.

        I refuse to supply a link. Am I lying?

        TL;DR Demanding proof that something that happens a lot happened again is reality denial masquerading as rationality.

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            10 hours ago

            More like flat earthers demanding proof that the world is round. Who disbelieves that .ml mods ban a lot of people for critisizing former communist countries?

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            1 day ago

            So what, I get banned on any other ml and need to make another account? What does that benefit me? The conversation went just like it went here. Except I was called Hitler. To be fair, after being called Hitler I called someone else Hegseth.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              22 hours ago

              No, I’m not saying you’re lying, I’m asking for context and proof. It’s hard to fake mod logs, but I could say .world banned me for saying Hitler was evil on another account.

              Trust me, I know .ml is not great. YePowerTrippingBastards has proof.

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                15 hours ago

                My name is the same there, you can look. I did not use any slur in the thread I was banned in. I previously had said something was retarded in another thread and they got hot an bothered but that was not in that thread. The only name I called someone was a fascist after he called me a fascist.

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          22 hours ago

          It’s the same username, just on .ml. They’re just really obnoxious, the sort who goes down fighting about being allowed to say slurs while pretending it’s about some higher principle.

            • phar@lemmy.world
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              10 hours ago

              Where did I say mods were evil? Why is it so hard for people here to have a conversation without claiming other people said things they didn’t?