I have read a few people mention it being an issue on here, but now I am starting to see it myself, blatant bots posting really crappy AI images. I do not want this to turn into Facebook with shrimp Jesus, so I’m just wondering what can be done to prevent bots from polluting the airwaves here. Any ideas, or work being done on this front?

  • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    There’s nothing that can be done to stop it, but you can downvote or block things to try to reduce their reach.

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      Don’t forget to report, if you have good reason to believe you’re seeing a bot that is not properly marked as such.

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      Yea, that’s my big concern. Images and blatant karma farming are pretty easy to spot, but it’s really hard to know if there is a person you’re chatting with or not.

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      This is it exactly.

      “But how can we know if it’s a bot?”

      We probably can’t based on a single comment or post, which is why rules need to be constructed around maintaining a level of effort and quality.

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    Not possible

    We can do what other spaces don’t, and choose to not design our space around bots in ways that hinder the user experience.

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    I just go back to the things that forum admins have done forever: block whole IP continents you don’t see meaningful engagement from but see a ton of bots from. Make new accounts jump through a bunch of hoops. Don’t allow new users to create content for a while, and then make them earn that right over time. Shadow ban the crap you can identify so they waste their strength. Reap inactive accounts periodically. And so on.

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    Get admins with the time and the balls to go after them. Aside from that, nothing we can do as users.

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      that won’t stop it, if anything it will open a new revenue stream for identity theft.

      the only true answer is to devise a secured back end.

      doesn’t exist, yet. it will one day, just not right now.

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      14 days ago

      That sounds simple enough, but the fediverse is not popular yet with normies, and we’re already seeing it happen. Also, how does one keep normies away from something exactly?

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        being honest about the state of israel/palestine seems to be easiest way, ime

        for some reason normies really don’t like that bit of simulation coming down

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    Text wise, there is no way to tell anymore unless the bot fucks up, which happens rarely.

    Image wise, I doubt someone has an automatic pipeline where a bot generates pictures on it’s own and posts them. What you are seeing are real people using AI to make their memes, or people who are enthusiastic about AI reposting pictures they find. Nothing wrong with that.

    There’s also posting bots, which should be labeled as such but I guess most people don’t. It’s just a way to bring content in, I don’t really see a problem with this.

    And there’s vote manipulation obviously.

    All that to say that the first and last one are the only problematic ones since it’s used to manipulate and sway opinions. But there isn’t anything we can do if someone is mildly smart about it and uses a proxy service. Llms are simply too good at making themselves look like regular commenters.

    We could ask for ID from every user and cross reference with the help of governments to make sure it’s a real one, or have heavy and intense captchas, but who wants to do that?

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    You can reduce bot noise on the Fediverse through a mix of server settings, moderation tools, and user-side filtering. Since it is decentralized, no one can stop bots everywhere, but individual servers and clients can limit how much spam actually reaches people.

    Server admins can require email verification or CAPTCHAs at signup, use manual account approval for new users, limit posting speed for new accounts, and block or silence servers that are known sources of spam. Many Fediverse servers already share blocklists and coordinate moderation so that problem servers get isolated quickly.

    Fediverse software is also adding better tools for detecting automated accounts, labeling bots, filtering low-quality AI images, and helping moderators review suspicious posting patterns. Some servers use anti-spam plugins or machine-learning filters to automatically flag or quarantine obvious bot posts. Individual users can mute keywords, block accounts, report spam to their server admins, or switch to a Following-only timeline to avoid noise from the wider network.

    Bot spam will never be fully eliminated, but stronger moderation tools, shared blocklists, and user controls make it possible to keep timelines clean without centralizing the network.

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    but now I am starting to see it myself, blatant bots posting really crappy AI images

    There’s one account that mods a shit ton.of AI image communities…

    If you block that one account, it will.pretty much fix all of it. They’re super weird and going off memory they mod an insane number of communities for AI images, so I wouldn’t worry about pre-emptively blocking everyone, because it’s just the one account posting most of it.

    But as you see posts block the community.

    It ain’t that difficult.

    But there’s entire instances that the admins have lost it to AI brainrot already. That’s where the communities are usually hosted and no amount of facts, logic, or even opinions and feelings will get those admins to “do something” about it.

    The fediverse isn’t centralized, you’ll never “get rid of” any subject or topic. Because even if the big instances do, anyone can make a new one.

    “Fighting” the people who’s brains have been rotted by AI will never be productive and most likely drives them further into AI

    Not sure why it still needs repeated so much, but:

    Don’t feed the trolls

    Block them and move on.

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      That puts a lot of responsibility on users to solve the problem for themselves, which as you say, they never will. Seems like the fediverse is going to be destroyed by AI in the near future just like the rest of the internet has been.

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          True, but I had hoped that the fediverse was a life raft from the dying internet at large. Seems that hope was unfounded, and the virus has spread here as well, with no sign of it being repelled.

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          The vast majority of users are not the architects of the internet or the fediverse for that matter. It’s like telling people to just stop using money. Sure, people could do it if they want to escape capitalism on an individual basis, but one person or group of people not using money does not eliminate capitalism or fix the issues that others will continue to deal with.

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        And dogs will start marrying cats!

        /S

        What the actual fuck are you even talking about?

        Seriously, nothing you’re saying makes any sense.

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          Uh, what? You responded coherently to my original post, and now suddenly nothing I say makes sense? Are you bipolar or something?

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            You read my initial comment…

            And thought it wasn’t pointing out how you didn’t know what you were talking about?

            That’s literally why I had to simplify and be blunt, and guess what?

            It worked.

            I had to really really dumb my comment down for you to understand it, and once you understood it, you got mad and accused me of having a mental illness…

            Why would anyone ever try to help you when this is how you act?

            Which likely explains why you have such fundamental misunderstandings.

            If someone explains something to you, you either don’t understand any of it, or get insulted someone didn’t agree with you

            Best of luck bro.

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              You’re the only person in this thread that has been a condescending dickbag, so I’m seriously not sure what you’re on about at this point.