• DaMummy@lemmy.world
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    Maybe it’s time to see Eurovision for what it really is. I think Americans are starting to see what the Nobel Peace Prize is all about as well.

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      if there’s something i love more than allah it’s eurovision

      they loves gays

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        It’s political.

        Think about it like wrestling. Everybody is a character, nothing is real, but they really need you to believe it is. It’s all an act to keep your attention.

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        Reading about the “Cultural Cold War” will very quickly explain it to you. They’re both a propaganda arm of the MIC.

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    The ESC winner of 2024…

    The attack on Israel was 2023…

    Israel has been in Gaza since 2023… This was already brutal in 2024…

    Israel was part of ESC in 2023 and 2024…

    Looks like a publicity stunt…

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      It’s in response to the decision last week to let Israel keep participating, which was followed by the boycott of the competition by Spain, Iceland, Denmark and this decision by Nemo. Others countries have since decide to boycott it as well (not Switzerland).

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      This is why the left is doomed at the moment.

      Someone stands up for the left side, they receive: “fuck off you’re not perfect enough”

      Whereas any branch of the right will get behind another if they’re even slightly nudging the way they want.

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    I kind of find it funny all these countries with genocidal history getting on their high horse through a music competition, y’all a disaster.

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      It all lip-service actually. These countries (EU and US) have all the political, economic, legal and military power to actually punish Israel but instead they choose to do these meaningless acts. In fact they benefits from this genocide/colonization.

      When someone is at the (benefit) receiving side of colonization process, of course, they would not want to be punished for sins of their father, but they will also not give up on the jewels looted by their father too.

      Now let the downvotes shower begin.

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      Fun fact: 100% of countries have done fucked up shit.

      I’m not pointing that out because I think that excuses any of the fucked up shit. It doesn’t.

      I’m pointing it out because by the standards of “shut up if your country was ever genocidal”, only people from countries with very little power and influence are allowed to try to do or say anything to make the world a better place for those of us not in favor of genocide.

      TL;DR: STFU with that ultra reductionist edgelord bullshit. You’re not helping and you’re not being clever.

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        Perspective, you are being very reductionist. Not that i disagree necessarily. Creating a country rarely came from lets all get together and sing happy songs, but there are vast differences among formation of countries, colonialism, and genocide.

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          Are you saying that indigenous people never warred with others/neighbors and wiped out other tribes? Never raped, never put their enemies into slavery or sold them to other indigenous, or never tortured those they were at war with?

          Because, to me, it sounds like you’re making that case with your comment and that is a bullshit case to be made. Humans are historically awful.

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              Are you suggesting that indigenous peoples have never done any of what I said above?

              I’m not trying to guilt you into sympathizing with colonization. I’m trying to get you to understand that, “I’m indigenous, so only bad things ever happened to people like me because of colonization” is a naive idea to have.

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                How do you compare warring tribes to the racial genocide of 60+ million? That in itself is why I called you a racist, it’s the low key colonial racism that’s inbeded in your core. No matter what side you take in politics, there are racist takes like that inside you that you don’t realize should stay in your brain.

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                  Because I’m NOT comparing it. You need some serious reading comprehension practice. You’re all riled up for the entirely wrong fucking point that I have repeatedly said I am not arguing.

                  Good gravy.

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                No, you’re trying to equate to genocidal, “wipe out all indigenous people” with let me check… warring tribes can grouping them all as “all countries do bad things.” Which vastly outweighs the evils of the two approach.

                You’re not trying to guilt him, you’re just trying to wash away your colonialist guilt than anything else.

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                  No. I’m really not trying to equate that at all. Using “I’m indigenous” as an excuse to imply that you’re beyond criticism is bullshit. Everyone can be criticized. Everyone has skeletons.

                  You’re trying to pull words out of nothing. All I was responding to was the whole “ Im indigenous so 🤷‍♂️” comment.

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      What a dipshit take.

      There is not a single patch of land where humans have lived where atrocities haven’t happened. Not one.

      Some countries, though, are committing atrocities right now.

      Equating them is absolutely moronic. What kind of Old Testament whacko are you? Put that “sins of the father will be paid by the son” bullshit in the bin where it belongs.