• bassomitron@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Ukraine–the county literally being invaded by Russia–is an imperialist, war mongering tyrant? Get the fuck out of here with this slop. Could’ve just left it with the main flags, but throwing Ukraine’s flag in there is legit braindead Chinese/Russian trolling.

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      15 hours ago

      If the US is running the show then yeah it’s definitely imperialism, we’ve very clearly succeeded in mongering up a war there, and I do recall some pretty unambiguous reports of the current regime in Ukraine directly suppressing opposition parties and suspending elections

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          Its government came to power as a result of a US-backed coup, for starters.

          edit: For the record, I upvoted you because your question is fair and valid if you don’t know the history and context of the situation. And the western media where many people understandably (if sadly) get their information from will never provide that history and context. That is why we get these confidently ignorant people coming into threads like this gobsmacked that anyone can deny what they see as the obvious truth of Russia’s “unjustified invasion by a foreign aggressor.”

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      23 hours ago

      “How can they not be a Good Guy if they’re fighting a Bad Guy!”

      Liberals continue to get there politics from capeshit.

      Chinese/Russian trolling.

      Just openly admitting that you see all foreigners as interchangeable villains.

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        Uh, what? Look at the context of this post, jackass. The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy while everyone else is evil. I agree with most of the evil flags being there rightfully, but Ukraine is literally defending itself from unjustified invasion. Jfc, it’s crazy this has to be explained. Just look at the entire history of Russia’s aggression and bullying of Ukraine and try to tell me with a straight face that they’re unjustified in defending themselves from a foreign aggressor.

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          The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy while everyone else is evil.

          No it doesn’t, you’re strawmanning

          I agree with most of the evil flags being there rightfully, but Ukraine is literally defending itself from unjustified invasion.

          You think being invaded automatically makes a country good?

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          Uh, what? Look at the context of this post, jackass. The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy

          The flag of Russia isn’t even in the meme, “jackass.” The flag of the USSR is, though sadly it hasn’t existed for a few decades now. Like most clueless liberals happily drowning in propaganda, you are falsely equating modern capitalist Russia with the USSR.

          And that’s not even getting into the fact that even modern Russia (whose flag appears nowhere in this image, genius) was wholly justified in entering the civil war that had already been ongoing inside Ukraine on behalf of the eastern regions of Ukraine whose civilians were being slaughtered by the Ukrainian government’s militias. But I admit that it’s hard to keep a straight face when talking to someone who uses NATO buzzwords like “unjustified foreign aggressor” because I keep having to facepalm.

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          Begging liberals to stop thinking of the world in terms of “good guys and bad guys” like overgrown toddlers and start looking at things in terms of cause and effect like adults

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      23 hours ago

      Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll. But not even the Soviet Union, China, US, UK all the other does not excuse them from their atrocities. They are all bad, it does not matter if a Communist or a Capitalist is oppressing you, oppression is oppression. Trying to excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument. People deserve freedom not subjugation

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        They are all bad

        Good job, that’s exactly the understanding and framing that the Council on Foreign Relations wants you to have.

        Trying to excuse your oppression does it too is not a valid argument.

        Nobody is making such an argument.

        People deserve freedom not subjugation

        Ok then, that was always allowed.

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        22 hours ago

        Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll.

        excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument.

        Uhuh