Waking up every day and drinking that Hatorade.
If you don’t like anything on the the platform, why stick around?
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I have no idea who that is - your alt?
Downvoting is valid. You saying it equals hate says more about you than about the downvoters.
edit: hm, apparently this is about the user doing the downvoting, not being downvoted? Still, this is badly anonymized, and that’s my main point.
Nothing against downvoting in general, but some people are extremely toxic about it. I don’t get the point.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
I’m not. But if this post should evolve into one, that’s on you. Do the sensible thing and remove it.
i concur (approved your p.of.view)
I like Lemmy(*)s, and like to ↑ good stuff and to ↓ at very bad stuff. Yes, of course, there is so much of both in here. And since we have many communities, it is possible for opposite points of view to float upward. Until we have a better system, let’s use what we have.
I give away positivity
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Maybe, it’s not clear:
- What you see in the image are the upvotes and downvotes I gave, not the ones I received.
- I’m on a Lemmy instance that does not have downvotes enabled at all. I can’t even downvote anything and if others click the downvote button on my posts/comments, nothing happens at all as far as I know. Maybe, their app shows that it worked, but I don’t think, anything happens.
if others click the downvote button on my posts/comments, nothing happens at all as far as I know.
I think it shares the downvotes within that instance (possibly with other instances that allow downvoting) so anyone else viewing the post from the same instance as the user who downvoted will still see it and their browser will use that when sorting the posts.
i downvote any ai slop that crosses my feed
So brave.
Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic (though that lead to the annoying and incessant “bump? bump? bump?” posts on threads people wouldn’t let die, i guess).
Post voting is understandable as an alternative but it just leads to so much vanity as a result. Sites like this and reddit have so many dorks that are like “my fake internet points… how could you”. If it matters that much to you just shitpost all the time and you’ll get those numbers up
question about something specific (3w ago)
nvm figured it out (3w ago)
what was the solution? Im having the same issue (5m ago)
[MOD] necroing resolved topics is against the TOS. Read the rules before posting. Banned 4 lyf sunnnnn (1m ago)
You can sort by
new commentsto emulate that on Lemmy.Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic
That’s how forums on Steam work and it makes them almost useless. The only posts you see are the rage bait from people farming Steam points from ‘Clown’ awards. Any meaningful post doesn’t get the same engagement as people trying to ‘slam the trolls into submission’ (FFS, how do people still not know you don’t feed the trolls?) so it gets pushed under all the bullshit.
Lemmy’s system is good because there is no account wide total, so it really doesn’t matter if one of your posts gets a lot of upvotes and another gets a lot of downvotes, it just means one was good and other wasn’t.
… And then you get people who really want some kind of account wide total for some reason so they go to websites that total up the number of times a user has given upvotes and downvotes…
Go ahead, bitch about it, I like it
True neutral. Who’s gonna fight such a nice balance?
In my experience? Basically everyone. You’re all a bunch of bastards.
I mean… You have the options to upvote, to down vote and to not click a button. I haven’t seen 742 posts that were so terrible that I had to decide to down vote them.
Down voting other opinions just because they do not match mine brings useless negativity. I don’t think, we need that on Lemmy.
Guess I’m doing okay!
Holy beans that’s a lot of upvotes
holy - putting the community on their back
Sticking my neck out a bit to share my general views and habits on voting to maybe add some other things to consider.
My general mindset is that each community sets rules on posts and comments, and that ideally only appropriate things should then be posted. So I typically only think to upvote stuff when there’s an even greater than normal amount of effort or thought put into something, or to counteract dogpile downvotes to an appropriate post/comment.
Say I’m browsing a motorcycle community and one user posts a meme about bikes, and someone else poses a story about learning to ride; if my preference is for text posts instead of images I could just upvote the story post and not the meme, but both posts are related to the community and belong there. I could upvote both (and by extension all posts) but then what’s the difference if everything is +1 or +0? If memes are disallowed, I can downvote and report the post to push it down to hopefully keep others from having to see it or encourage them to post their own.
I will also downvote nearly 100% of extremely low-effort pointless comments like “THIS”, “lol”, URL shortened or amp/tracking including links without context etc. A post in another language but marked as English I will also downvote, foreign language communities/instances I just block. I block most meme and shitpost style communities so I’m not looking to vote police what other people enjoy, but doing this stuff in science/news/hobby/etc. communities is inappropriate.
So that’s generally how I behave on Lemmy (and previously on Reddit) - I’m generally more “on the lookout” for bad content, and not looking to boost things that belong here. I don’t rely on voting to maintain my feed, my block lists are also enormous.
A more semi-recent phenomenon is accounts spam posting a bunch of (relevant) links and then self-deleting - I can’t block that account to hide their posts, but as I’m scrolling through my feed I will downvote every single post they made regardless of its quality etc. I’m not going to rehash arguments about whether their behavior is acceptable or not (“they are posting relevant stuff, who cares if they’re acting in bad faith!”) but since there’s generally 2-3 of those accounts per day spam posting junk that’s a lot of downvotes from me to a lot of different communities including some I’m not subscribed to. I’m not going to bother reporting every single post, and until there’s a method to easily directly report a user I’m not going to bother trying that anymore.
Just wanted to put that out there that there might be other legitimate users that have wildly disproportionate voting numbers and that it might not be malicious or careless in nature. I don’t know if Lemmy ignores them like Reddit (supposedly?) does, but I’ve never mass voted from a user’s history. It’s only from comments and posts that were presented to me during my normal browsing.
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I don’t understand this post at all. Why does it matter what someone upvotes or downvotes? The upvote/downvote means literally nothing at all. Personally, even removed the ability to see the upvote/downvote thing on Lemmy with Mlem.
People place way to much sentiment on the whole up and downvote. That’s why Reddit just became a karmafarming place instead of actual (good) written conversation. Lets not do that with Lemmy. Also, this post could turn out quite bad and gets a unnecessary witch hunt started.
Why do boos and cheers matter in a crowd?
I do not know, you tell me? Anyway, it seems my particular comment got some people agitated. Did not expect to see people getting agitated over a single random comment and question.
Well if the crowd is booing you, it can mean you’re wrong, or that you’re bad at the thing youre trying to do, or that you’re performing to the wrong audience.
If the crowd is cheering you, they’re communicating that they like you or that you did good or that youre simply saying what they want to hear.
In the OPs case, where they’re pressing the down arrow way more than the up arrow, it implies that they’re in the wrong place as an audience. To extend the shitty analogy I started with, if I only love classic music and soft jazz, I’m not going to have a good time in a mosh pit. I should get out of the mosh pit and find a venue that plays classical music, instead of coming back every night and booing.
This assumes the user bothers with upvoting, which plenty of people don’t do. They may well downvote what they dislike, and don’t vote on what they do like.
Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?
Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.
IMO this post points to a what some believe to be an intentional effort to poison rival platforms to maintain the current monopolies. I think that matters.
Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?
Yes, it is. Because on Lemmy, the down and upvote does not restrict your account (like how Reddit does it). From my understanding the upvote and downvote on Lemmy is more “upvote, so more users see it and downvote see it gets seen less”.
Which means if one person is trolling it and downvote but majority of users are upvoting it, it doesn’t matter much.
Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.
That’s one of the many reasons.
Also, you don’t sound very friendly and since your account is about 5 days old. I’m very skeptical of your comment and behavior.
They affect visibility. Exactly.
Skeptic away, friend. Your account was also 5 days old at one point, but whatever.
They affect visibility. Exactly.
Skeptic away, friend.
Glad Lemmy allows infinite blocking users. So welcome to the blocklist, don’t want to see unfriendly and unnecessary behavior from new accounts.
idgaf about a baby’s opinion
bye felicia
I took an extended break from Lemmy but since I came back I’m noticing a lot more people announcing when they block other people. Can I ask why you felt the need to let everyone know you were blocking this person and/or what other social media you’ve used in the past? Like is this a twitter thing I don’t understand?
I have always done that to people who are unfriendly towards me. It also gives them a notice that I won’t be replying to their unfriendly behavior.
Never used Twitter/X so I have no idea how it is on there.
Though, I wonder why do I need to explain my reason for announcing to block someone but someone else being unfriendly or having a toxic behavior seems to be okay and is not questioned. What other social media have you used in the past?
I cut my teeth on Reddit, personally. A long, long time ago, I used a certain anonymous imageboard but I stopped when I finally realized that what were edgy jokes to me were actually pretty serious business to the worst kinds of people. When I block people I just… y’know, block them. They can scream at the void, it’s whatever. I don’t engage with trolls, because telling them off often encourages them. I’m not trying to antagonize you here, I was just curious because you’re the second or third person I’ve seen post a “get blocked loser” type of message in the past few hours.
In my experience down votes basically exist to justify psychotic power mods being able to block people they don’t like.
I assumed that moderators just ban people they do not like or at least remove comments. Blocking people that you do not like is helpful. Keeps your feed and comments section clean and brings less unfriendly behavior. I’m a huge fan of Lemmy’s blocking, it does not prevent the blocked person to comment but it does help the blocker to prevent seeing anything from the blocked person. Brings peace to both, one can simply comment and the other will not see it.
From the context of my comment I thought it was clear by block I meant Banning. But I can see how you were confused by that.
For me, they matter and don’t matter.
Opinion down voting brings useless negativity to Lemmy.
40 upvotes, 60 down votes is totally normal, but seeing a -20 can lead to the removal of comments, which I don’t like… Echo chambers are not what we need.
I’m on an instance that does not support down votes. That means, if one disagrees, they need to use their brain and write a comment.
Huge respect for anyone who does not down vote.
Opinion down voting brings useless negativity to Lemmy.
My own experience on Lemmy is that this has been happening more and more. It was not like that when the first Reddit migration happened. However, a year later and that kind of toxicity has started to arise.
It’s one of the reasons why I disabled the visibility of the votes. It also can manipulate on how someone thinks*.
Personally, besides the more technology knowledge on Lemmy… I find that Lemmy slowly but steadily adopts more and more Reddit behaviors in terms of user behavior.
I’m on an instance that does not support down votes. That means, if one disagrees, they need to use their brain and write a comment.
Honestly that sounds great. It means people usually have to actually write why they don’t agree.
EDIT; something went wrong with formatting and copied text twice. Edited it to get it correct again.
People are much more likely to write a complaint letter than a praising one. Same as it ever was but internet version.
I worked for a company that had a post karma system before reddit ever existed. It was no different then. No matter how much we said that the downvote button is not a dislike button, it changed nothing.
Hadn’t seen this before.
Do these indicate up / down votes that I’ve given to other people? Or that other people have given to me?
How you have voted for others
Ah yes. Penis measuring. But instead of measuring penises we’re measuring something even more arbitrary.
For context: This is the number of votes someone gives others, not the usual Reddit karma comparison.
I’m not sure it’s as useless of a measurement.
If you have a small penis, you’ll disappoint a handful of people
This guy disappointed thousands.
this is given votes, not received
i’m a grumpy man on the internet sometimes but damn i love upvoting shit. I display lemmiquette
