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      He made a deal with Trump. Maduro has abandoned venezuela. You can’t capture a national leader this easily unless they’re compliant

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          Trump gets:

          • Venezuelan oil and mineral wealth
          • cheap labour of Venezuelan people under occupation
          • PR win at a time when his approval is at an all time low
          • distraction from the Epstein files

          Maduro gets:

          • to a escape a long and bloody war he’d probably lose
          • a cushy life in Florida with a new identity
          • safety for his family
          • escaping trial for anything he might have done during his presidency
            • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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              • How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA.

              He has already claimed them and is talking more boots in the ground.

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              They are not occupied

              Yet, you mean? I don’t know what to expect anymore, so nothing is out of the question

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              You get the oil and minerals because the next guy knows not to deny you when you ask

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              It’ll be weird to watch. He just pardoned a convicted cartel boss that was the leader of a nation with the excuse that the leader of a nation wouldn’t be involved in drug trafficking or murder.

              It’ll be a three ring circus and he’ll probably lose since he can’t even manage to successfully prosecute a single immigrant.

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              How does trump get oil and minerals? He doesn’t, because Venezuela is still an independent country and is not occupied by the USA.

              The replacement is little more than a US puppet. She will be indebted to Trump for as long as he remains in office, be it three more years, or for the rest of his life.

              They will be electing a new president/government.

              That has technically already happened. Maduro just refused to transfer power.

              As far at the PR goes, Trump doesn’t need PR anymore. His idiot base are unshakable. If he can get convicted of multiple felonies and still get elected, and then the Epstein files drop and implicate him and he still doesn’t get brought up on impeachment charges, then there’s no social ramifications for him any longer. Congress and the courts will protect him from run-of-the-mill abuses of power and scandals that would otherwise be devastating to a normal political figure. About the only thing he’s in danger of is letting people starve, which will cause mass riots. As long as he can avoid total economic collapse, he’ll be fine.

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        that’s a major hit to their ability to fight back right? Even if he wasn’t collaborating losing a monolithic leader like would be a massive blow their ability to effectively resist.

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    As an American I fully condemn this, condemn the regime that ordered it, condemn the Military Officers that received orders to do this and didn’t immediately resign, and fully hope that International consequences against the guilty parties will be forthcoming.

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          They have, repeatedly. Millions upon millions of them. The biggest protests EVER.

          But you are free to come here and show us how it’s done! Lead the way

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            Unless you’re having big protests everyday, or at the least every weekend than you’ve accomplished nothing. If you don’t get labor and other non-governmental organizations on your side to start shutting down broad swaths of the economy and society, they ignore you. It’s not rocket science.

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              what percentage of your people are unionized?

              In USA it’s 10%, and most of those are ironically police and feds what an odd coincidence.

              POLAND has better benefits than the USA, longer vacations, health care, and more. We’ve been surpassed by eastern Europe.

              But Musk is a trillionaire yaaay

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    They’ve been bombed. Not just explosions, the child rapist asking for a nobel peace prize just bombed them. Nice way to start 2026… Here’s hoping Venezuela becomes the cunt’s Vietnam!

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    What an ineffective distraction ftom the Epstein Files!

    And what a travesty Drumpf is literally playing with the lives of others, American and Venezuelan, to do so.

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        Ah yes, let’s ignore the fact that he spent the bulk of his adult life grooming and raping girls (not “women”, but minors) with his best friend, the world’s most notorious pedophile sex trafficker, because he is starting an unprovoked war over oil.

        Genuine question: are you really incapable of being angry about multiple things at once, or do you just have a generally laissez-faire attitude towards violent sex crimes against kids?

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          are you really incapable of being angry about multiple things at once

          Then why keep going on about distractions?

          “My president is bombing innocent people, I bet he’s only doing it to distract us from him being a pedo” is not the enlightened stance you think it is

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    I hate my country. I hope class consciousness accelerates under Trump’s shit management of the US so working class people can oust his ass. The US CANNOT be the world’s bully for another century.

    It’s time for this empire to fall.

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    Is the oil safe? I stand with Washington! Someone please tell me what flag I need to put on my X account, thanks!

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      Trump wouldn’t have won either election if congress had a spine.

      (emoluments for example).

      Congress was with him, even when they impeached him (and didn’t actually convict).

      Without congress, Trump wouldn’t be possible. No functioning government would have him as President.

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    It really doesn’t make sense to me. So they kidnap Maduro and his wife … and then what? What do they expect to happen in Venezuela? It will probably be chaos there.

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    USA is a terrorist country and must disappear. Theyve only killed killed and killed people since its inception. Fuck USA

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    I use this time in the morning to ease into my day. 5 am here in Western North Carolina. What the fuck is wrong with America? I am sick to my stomach right now.

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      He’ll write an EO saying any troops will be out in 2029 so that IF Dems are in power then they’ll have to figure a way to clean up.

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    Well on the bright side, thank fucking Ares we no longer have to listen to Tulsi Gabbard’s smug performative “end the forever wars” bullshit.