The United States has captured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and flown him out of the country in a stunning military operation that plucked a sitting leader from office following months of escalating Trump administration pressure on the oil-rich South American nation.
How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?
The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they’re going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.
The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s going to have them on alert, but it’s not a bridge burning yet.
This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.
Some will, but most will see this as confirmation he will act illegally rather than just threaten to. i.e. an escalation of threat from before this happened.
It’d be nice, but I can’t see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.
Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it’s not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn’t even pretending this time. It’s about oil and getting rich.
If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don’t do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that’s pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he’ll get away with it.
How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?
The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they’re going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.
Diplomatic suicide with the world happened many months ago, were you sleeping? Threatening Canada, Greenland, who else?
The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s going to have them on alert, but it’s not a bridge burning yet.
This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.
But not OUR bridge, can any other diplomat rationalize?
Some will, but most will see this as confirmation he will act illegally rather than just threaten to. i.e. an escalation of threat from before this happened.
They’re still kissing the ring.
Not gonna happen. Trump is especially blatant, but imperialism is bipartisan.
Every single goddamn american president after the us became imperialist should go to jail
So since founding.
Sure, they should but I can’t see any US president giving up their war crimes pass.
It’d be nice, but I can’t see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.
As an American I love this idea.
Trump and the rest of the GOP at this point are traitors to both their own people, and to the world.
Let’s throw a good number of the democrats in there, too. Not all of them like the GOP, but many of those assholes are also traitors.
Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it’s not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn’t even pretending this time. It’s about oil and getting rich.
If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don’t do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that’s pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he’ll get away with it.
Is it now a free for all for dictators? Trump, Netanyahu, Putin next in line?
Manuel Noriega would have a thing to say. At least Noriega was a legit narco boss.