What about the Austro-Hungarian Empire Empire, everybody always forgets about the Habsburg monarchy (1282 to 1918). I’d compare the USA of today to the final days of the Habsburg monarch. It exists, seems strong, nobody will notice if its gone. If the USA folded back into EU, as it probably will in the next 50 years, people would just see the USA history as an odd bit of history that was there to perpetuate slavery in the 18th and 19th Century.
The Austro-Hungarian Empire (which existed only in the 1800s up to 1918), was preceded by a separate Austrian Empire and Kingdom of Hungary, which happened to have the same ruler (same person who had both titles) since the late 1500s. Habsburgs didn’t take control of Hungary until 1526, and even then, limited to the western bits due to Ottoman incursions, and full control wasn’t achieved until 1718. So using 1282 as the beginning of Habsburg rule within Hungary, or equating the Habsburg dynasty with the Austro-Hungarian Empire is quite misleading.
Also, the Empire was hardly a world power, at least not to the level of Spain in the 1400-1500s, or the UK in the 1800s…
I also doubt the US will fold into the EU. Canada wants in, yes, but that’s because the US is totally fucked at the moment. What I suspect will happen is a collapse of the federal over-state, resulting in a union similar to the EU - and potentially on friendly terms with it too - into which Mexico and Canada will be invited too, plus a mutual defense pact.
What about the Austro-Hungarian Empire Empire, everybody always forgets about the Habsburg monarchy (1282 to 1918). I’d compare the USA of today to the final days of the Habsburg monarch. It exists, seems strong, nobody will notice if its gone. If the USA folded back into EU, as it probably will in the next 50 years, people would just see the USA history as an odd bit of history that was there to perpetuate slavery in the 18th and 19th Century.
I hardly forgot about it, since I’m Hungarian.
The Austro-Hungarian Empire (which existed only in the 1800s up to 1918), was preceded by a separate Austrian Empire and Kingdom of Hungary, which happened to have the same ruler (same person who had both titles) since the late 1500s. Habsburgs didn’t take control of Hungary until 1526, and even then, limited to the western bits due to Ottoman incursions, and full control wasn’t achieved until 1718. So using 1282 as the beginning of Habsburg rule within Hungary, or equating the Habsburg dynasty with the Austro-Hungarian Empire is quite misleading.
Also, the Empire was hardly a world power, at least not to the level of Spain in the 1400-1500s, or the UK in the 1800s…
I also doubt the US will fold into the EU. Canada wants in, yes, but that’s because the US is totally fucked at the moment. What I suspect will happen is a collapse of the federal over-state, resulting in a union similar to the EU - and potentially on friendly terms with it too - into which Mexico and Canada will be invited too, plus a mutual defense pact.