• sexy_peach@feddit.org
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    This shows once again that the only argument fascists understand is sheer force. They need to be struck down and stopped by force.

    In a non fascist society these people are best controlled by normal laws being enforced. But when they learn breaking the law doesn’t have consequences, bad things happen (like ice shooting people, and worse things to come).

    Good, normal people don’t even need laws enforced mostly.

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      Unfortunately this fascist controls the mightiest military force this planet has ever seen. The only people who could realistically stop an invasion after Trump orders it are US generals themselves.

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        Normally this would not really be an issue, you don’t need a vast military to prevent a much bigger army from invading or winning.

        You just need to make it suck as much as possible for the attacker, to the point that it is not worth it for them.

        Unfortunately this doesn’t work with people like Trump as he has invested his ego into this, and his ego is much larger than the military.

        He doesn’t care about the soldiers he will get killed, as long as his ego wins.

        As a Swede, I want us to send subs and our Visby corvettes, we should send Gripens, all while coordinating with our brothers in the south.

        All of EU/NATO should send troops, planes and ships to defend Greenland.

        America has never faced a technological equal on the battlefield since WWII, and I don’t know if they are prepared for how tough it will be.

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        It’s only mighty on paper. The US hasn’t outright won a war since WW2 (most of the time they fought themselves into a stalemate then pouted and “strategically withdrew” proclaiming they won the war), in various war games they regularly have their asses handed to them, and so on.

        The US literally spends nearly a thousand billion USD a year on padding the pockets of a select few buddies with defence contractor companies, who deliver subpar equipment, have overrun every single project for the past what, 30 years, in both budget and timeline, and essentially used the entirety of their military as a social welfare program.

        They’ve got big numbers, and yes that’s a bit scary, but by admission of actual active US military members, the dummies outnumber the actually intelligent, leadership material 9 to 1 at least. Which isn’t a good ratio.

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        I hope Kegsbreath calls another bitching session to piss them off real good right before they get the order to invade an EU territory

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      London is a good example of what happens in a society where law isn’t enforced. Please hear me out - I actually love this city but the societal issues are undeniable.

      It all goes back to Boris Johnson being a vindictive little prick, and withdrawing tons of government level funding from the Metropolitan Police - all because London decided that they wanted a Labour mayor instead of continuing the disastrous Tory policies, which had one primary goal: syphon off as much of the city’s money as possible into friends’ pockets. Londoners had enough and elected Khan after de Pfeffel was picked as PM, so the Tories continued cutting budgets left and right.

      This forced the Met to cut back spending, including police presence in high traffic areas, what cases they investigated and to what extent, as well as reducing the overall force size.

      The tipping point came in 2024 - up until then, the Met managed to round out the budgets by selling off property they owned all over London, but by 2024 they only had mission critical things that couldn’t be sold. So even with the major increase in funding by the new Labour govt, maintaining the city policing was becoming impossible. Meaning petty crime became the lowest priority item. If there were no injuries, no lives at risk, the case became a number for insurance companies to refer to, then promptly closed. You got robbed? Good luck with your insurance claim. Phone snatched? Insurance, or buy a new one. Mugged? The Met might look into it if you got stabbed in the process. People blatantly stealing from a high street store? Official guideline was to not interfere, let them take shit. From around the beginning of 2022 till mid-2025, the situation was untenable, really. You’d be walking down a busy road and bam your phone grabbed right from your hands.

      Again, things have gotten better thanks to the Met starting some special task forces to deal with not just the phone snatchers, but the buyers of those stolen phones, rounding up and eliminating entire criminal networks. And suddenly the phone thefts have dropped in numbers. Didn’t stop completely but considerably lower nowadays than it was just half a year or a year ago.

      The funny thing is, most of society still abided by the rules. It was mostly the lowest ranges of society, the extremities, fringes, the outcasts, the people who’ve never felt they belong, those who see little to no way of breaking out from their quite desperate situations… Which wouldn’t be an issue if the Tories haven’t spaffed off billions to their mates, resulting in community centers closing, kid’s clubs shutting down, general social services stopping because of no funding, jobcentres giving fuck-all about the people (like, it’s seriously fucked up - I’ve got a friend who’s wheelchair bound, relies on PIP and disability payments, who’s nearly got said payments discontinued because he turned down a warehouse job that literally required full mobility…). These people require help, to be shown ways out of their destitute lives, ways that don’t involve criminal activities. Otherwise they’ll just turn to drug dealing, peddling stolen property, or worse, get involved with gangs.

      So yeah, the past ~5 years of events in London should be a grim preview of what to expect once societal norms start to break down. It’s not nice at all.