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    You spent the entire first comment explaining how “it’s not time yet” and then ended with and advocated for not fighting back.

    What is this tremendous power I have to stop you from going out and antagonizing ICE yourself?

    First, we’re discussing what you are advocating for mate. No one with a brain thinks that you individually have power. You’re playing dumb to avoid standing on your original point.

    Second, if you think people are going out and antagonizing ICE, you are hopeless. The fact that you even use that word makes it clear you don’t take seriously (or don’t understand) the degree of state violence that is being done. There is no antagonizing an invasion of what are essentially SS troops.

    Arm your homes, but in the streets protest peacefully.

    Not sure why you’re trying to ignore the entire thesis and conclusion of your own comment.

    When will YOU ask yourself why you have to put words that I did not say in my mouth

    I think it’s pretty clear I didn’t put words in your mouth. I’m literally just quoting you mate. You’re the one backing down with “people can do what they want”.

    The difference between our comments is this:

    YOU are ADVOCATING for something. You are telling people to not be violent in response to state violence. “It’s not time yet”. Here, look at this hyperfocused example of Portland. Ignoring all of the violent resistance that occured in Portland at that time.

    YOU are telling people to only resort to self defense on an individual basis if they are attacked inside their homes.

    I AM explaining why what is happening will inevitably lead to individual acts of violence if no action is taken by the state government in response to the federal governments violence.

    I AM saying (not advocating because I would never ever call for it because that’s I’m sure against the rules here) that organizing that individual violence into what essentially an armed resistance is a much more effective form of resistance.

    You, clearly haven’t experienced that violence first hand. It’s why you keep telling people to go protest peacefully. If you went to a protest, you’d realize that is not something that is even possible now in Minnesota. You’re standing on the sidelines telling the quarterback what to do, when you’ve never even touched a football.

    Go to Minnesota. Take a pepper bomb to the face. Then tell me how long you’ll keep going back and being “peaceful” as they add 1000 more troops today.