• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Jan 6 rioters got a pass because Trump was elected. Once Trump is dead, that’s no longer going to be possible.

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      3 days ago

      most of them got slap on the wrist even before the election began, it was clear they dont want to upset the voter base of republicans.

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        3 days ago

        Most of them weren’t caught doing anything more than breaking into the capitol building. The ones who actually attacked cops or did something violent got standard prison sentences for those kinds of crimes. Sure, I would have liked longer sentences. But, these were mostly first-time offenders who didn’t do a violent crime, so they got sentences that go with that. The aim of the justice department wasn’t to try to put them in prison for as long as possible, but to treat them the same as any other criminal. Maybe the idea was that that was going to make the cases harder to overturn on appeal because there wasn’t any hint of political bias in the sentencing.

        I think it would have had a pretty solid deterrent effect if Trump hadn’t come back and commuted their sentences / pardoned them. But, pardoning them is yet another way he’s completely throwing away the rule book.

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      3 days ago

      Tons of sociopaths are watching Trump and taking notes. With series reforms to both our society and political system, this will just happen again and with Peter Thiel practically owning JD Vance, it could be sooner than you think.

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        3 days ago

        Trump is a one in a million manipulator. There’s a reason this hasn’t happened since Hitler and Mussolini. Various others like Marco Rubio, Ron DeSantis, etc. have all tried to use the same playbook and failed completely. If you think MAGA is going to fall in line behind couchfucker JD Vance, you’re deluded. A big reason that Trump picked him as VP is that he knew Vance was no threat to him.

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          There’s a reason this hasn’t happened since Hitler and Mussolini

          That’s a wild statement to make considering that Putin is a household name these days.

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            2 days ago

            Putin is hardly a charismatic leader. Might as well throw in Maduro or Noriega, or Saddam Hussein if you’re going to talk about leaders who ruled through fear and force rather than charisma.

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              Putin has been more often than not genuinely popular with Russians; he was very successful at creating a persona that worked in his culture to secure and maintain power.

              And while Maduro wasn’t charismatic, Chavez certainly was

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                You don’t talk about Hitler “more often than not” being popular with Germans. Hitler famously had huge rallies filling stadiums.

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                  11 hours ago

                  Putin has been in power for longer and there have been times were his popularity dipped. Then he launched a successful military operation and boom, popularity back up.

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          Trump picked Vance because he thought Vance was physically good looking enough to be his VP. No joke.