• Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fuck it. Chips on the table, china taking over america would be a net positive at this point. I’ve never bought into the “country bad because ideology different” bullshit we’re fed here in the us. As I can see from here, just about any other large nation assuming control would bring me everything I ask my government for as a default.

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      2 months ago

      Trading late stage capitalism for mid stage capitalism and a pre-existing merger of state and corporate power doesn’t sound like a permanent fix. Also, deposing a strongman in favor a system that has reestablished it’s leadership as a strongman is not an improvement.

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        2 months ago

        I think you underestimate the term “improvement”. Lossing two fingers instead of three is an improvement. 8inches from the ledge is better than 4inches from the ledge even if either measure isn’t even one whole step. If in never going to see best then I’ll take any better I can get.

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          2 months ago

          Yeah but any invasion probably pushes half of the country over the edge before the war would be over.

          I wouldn’t wanna risk death and destruction for a mere potential 4" further from the edge.

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            1 month ago

            My dude, you’re on a federated platform. You don’t think you’re going to dodge being lumped in with all the political dissidents and “terrorists” when they run out of trans kids to gas? It’s literally a death risk either way, this way just means you get to watch tv until they get you.

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              I’m one of the trans kids adults, I’d be fucked anyways. Just wanted to illustrate that being invaded, if you welcome it or not, is usually a pretty rough affair.

              War is brutal, I don’t know if I would be willing to suffer through one, just for stuff to be slightly better afterwards, maybe. Provided I had the choice in the first place ofc.

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          2 months ago

          A permanently better world is possible so why settle for a temporary better situation with little hope for further improvement? Why insist people have to lose fingers when no one losing fingers is achievable and not at all far fetched?

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            2 months ago

            That’s like insinuating that I refuse to lose weight because I can’t lose 60lbs today. I’m literally saying I will take any movement what so ever if it means movement.

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              2 months ago

              It’s more like offering someone a weight loss pill that will work for a couple months and then make you gain more weight than you started with.

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                1 month ago

                Sold. We just have to switch to a different pill before that two months is up. Literally 1% better is still better.

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            2 months ago

            “Unless you’re creating an instant utopia you should not change to the status quo”

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              1 month ago

              What part of creating a mixed capitalist society run by an authoritarian regime leads to an utopia on any time frame? Spell it out for me because history suggests it will end poorly.