• renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Some of these comments are awful. Apparently, if we all aren’t wrapping ourselves and children with explosives and becoming Jihadists overnight, we’re not doing enough.

    This is a class war. The rich have taken over all the checks and balances in our system to where they can break every rule and comfortably get away with it; all the while getting richer and us poorer. We’re powerless and spread too thin geographically to do anything meaningful. Maybe we do need to get that radical, but I really hope it doesn’t ever need to get to that point.

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      2 months ago

      Ok but there is quite a way between going oh I don’t like what’s happening on social media and blowing yourself up.

      Write to your representatives and make it extremely clear that if they want to be reelected they will stand up to Trump.

      Massive protests, the No Kings protest were good but then you all kind of just gave up. Nothing violent but just a stubborn refusal to go along is all that is required. Boycott companies that support Trump, don’t buy the next iPhone (it’s basically the same phone every year anyway), don’t go to FIFA, don’t go to the Olympics, go to as many town meetings as you can and raise points of order and complain. Make it even possible for the powers that be to ignore the situation.

      Just imagine you’re a French dock worker complaining about industrialisation.

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      Nobody is blaming you for what Trump is doing. Nobody is asking you to become terrorists and this hyperbole is extremely unhelpful. We are blaming you for the fact that we’re not seeing protests every day that make the BLM protests seem like small gatherings. You guys are way past the point of being able to hope. Do something today. This is your country, so it’s your responsibility.

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        We are blaming you for the fact that we’re not seeing protests every day…

        This is just not possible and the rich are banking on that. It would have to become much much worse before people will risk their own employment, access to medical benefits, and personal security so that we can march.

        It’s easy to suggest those things but in reality it’s just not going to happen.

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          People in far worse circumstances than Americans got out in the streets and forced change.

          The time to act is now, not in the future when they’re even more entrenched.

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              Isn’t the whole point of the states that they basically operate like a bunch of smaller countries? You don’t have to protest enough to budge the feds, you just need to protest enough to remind your state that they can and should stand up against the feds.

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                Yes, and that’s happening in states with a federal presence. Look at the resistance in Minnesota or Chicago or LA or the DC area for example. But each state being their own independent polity means that what happens in Minnesota is not under the purview of any other government office until you get to Congress. I could riot at my state Capitol for eternity and that doesn’t change their power or jurisdiction, they can’t control Minnesota.

                If most Americans wanted to resist the fed their best tangible option would be… A post office maybe? For all the glitz and bombast of ICE and other DHS jack boots there are probably sub 10k agents on the ground. If all 340 million Americans decided to oust the fed there are only about 8500 buildings to burn down nation wide, and most of those concentrated in a few specific states.

                So unless you’re talking about balkanization and secession via inter-state compacts, there isn’t a ton of room for the headline-grabbing resistance that people want to see. And if it got to that point, every major US city would be rioting and ungovernable anyway.

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              what does it matter? if you live in buttfuck then march in buttfuck with the rest of your buttfuck habitants… where do you get that you have to travel to DC to march?

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          It’s easy to suggest those things but in reality it’s just not going to happen.

          It’s even easier to make excuses for not doing it.

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      Some of these comments are awful. Apparently, if we all aren’t wrapping ourselves and children with explosives and becoming Jihadists overnight, we’re not doing enough.

      LOL right… maybe just stop the endless excuses and do something, anything… stop consuming, hold a march on a weekday, write to your corrupt Senator or House Rep weekly

      The real problem here is that you have given the world Chlamydia but want to sit there pretending it is not your fault and any effort on your part is just asking too much