• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I know the history of the US from many perspectives, I don’t need essays about it, I am educated enough to know that a great many countries have a lot of blood on their hands.

    I am more concerned with solving issues here and now that harm people than joining bandwagons or tankie clubs and self-flagellating about it though.

    These kinds of lists just serve like incel manifestos for people hung up on nationalist persecution rather than sexual insecurity.

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      8 hours ago

      A number of people here have no idea what they’re writing about, because they’re not actually from here. I saw some asshole yesterday holding up John Brown as a successful model of how a new American civil war should be fought, lol.

      John Brown. If I could find it again I’d screenshot it. This is all just “let’s you and him fight” nonsense.

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        8 hours ago

        The number of people on Lemmy alone who will go into frothing rage when you tell them that we’re not about to have a civil war at all actually, at least not this century, tells me a lot about either how uneducated our population is, or how many people really, really get off to cosplaying as Americans online, and think they have even a fleeting idea of what daily life is like here.

        Help isn’t coming. Revolution isn’t happening. But we’ve been here before in history, we can turn it around again if enough people work together.

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          8 hours ago

          Truth. The fact of the matter is Minneapolis is winning, or ICE would not now be there, Pam Bondi would not be issuing ultimatums to Tim Walz demanding Minnesota voter lists, Gnome would not be issuing faked videos and pictures of big guns with false narratives even as she and Bovino are casting arou9nd the rest of DHS for volunteers to come to the Twin Cities, etc. These cosplatriots are ignoring the finer points, like how ICE has been hitting the more rural parts of MN because the neighborhood networks are making it SO hard to round up anyone at all anymore.

          Given the timing of all these comments, I don’t think it’s just a casual effort, but they’re barking up the wrong tree, lol.

          You are 100% right: we’ve been here before, and we CAN win this if people work together. Minnesotans learned from GF, and they are leading the way. I literally could not be more proud of Minnesotans than I am right now.

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      11 hours ago

      Wild take. You read about the US recently killing civilians in many different countries, and that brings you to sexual insecurity? Another liberal that would rather bury their head in the sand rather than open their eyes. I wish I could say I was surprised.

      The US being the largest global terrorist organization isn’t a thing of the past, it’s very much the present. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, and basically all before them took part in the atrocities. Yet, the solution to this problem seems to be: “vote blue no matter who.”

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        11 hours ago

        Go ahead and march around in costumes then, let me know how it works.

        I’ll be organizing community and grassroots work like happened in New York. I know you’re probably offended by optimism but I am still fighting for my country. Not just whinging how bad things are bad.

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          11 hours ago

          Sharing information that clearly isn’t common knowledge isn’t whining about a problem. And working towards a slightly more moderate form of capitalism isn’t a solution. It’s just moderately less fascist.

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            11 hours ago

            You have offered nothing here but whinging and whining, you sound like a whiny kid. I’m not engaging anymore.

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              11 hours ago

              You haven’t even had enough time to comb through a small percentage of what I offered. You instead insisted that you already know everything, and something about your sexual insecurities.

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                11 hours ago

                No, you offered a list of bad things the US has done, assuming I’m dumb, for what purpose you never outlined, you have given zero perscriptive statements, you’re just telling people their attempts are futile without providing an alternative. I don’t need that right now, it does nothing for me or others I am trying to actual work to actually help people. Help or get out of the fucking way.

                It literally does remind me of when I was working to help young guys and organize programs, and invariably some chud would send me a 20 page manifesto about how bad women are. Okay, fine bro, feel what you want, but why should this change what I’m trying to do right now. Deal with your personal frustrations on your own time.

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                  10 hours ago

                  You referenced liberalism (Mamdani) as a goal for your future. What you’re experiencing right now is all thanks to liberalism. You’re not helping anyone by fighting for the status quo.

                  An easy start would be reading Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti.

                  The Democrats are not your allies, unless you’re an old, rich, white dude. Then they’re your best bud.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Whatever, I am going to continue to advocate for voting out all incumbents, dem and GOP, I have been saying for years they’re all the same but we don’t have other realistic options than actually work for real representation. The revolutionary ideas that you seem to be pretending you’re not suggesting are childish fantasies in the US currently, stop assuming people don’t know what Stalinism is, if you subscribe to that system uncritically you’re as bad as MAGA, the GOP and establishment Dems, you just have different boots to suck on. Keep your cosplay manifestos for when people like ME actually manage to help enough people move the needle to a place where socialism is an acceptable word again.

                    Or take the country by force with your fantasy army. I’ll be waiting.

                    I won’t see your replies, you are still not giving me anything but more propaganda and whining. Use this as a lesson in public outreach and rethinking your approach. Stick to indoctrinating children if you’re allowed near schools and playgrounds.