“no because the dev hasn’t paid us to certify it as safe so you’ll have to jump through 37 hoops in order to allow you to right click, hold options, and click open. THEN we’ll give you an option to install it”
Sometimes it won’t let you even get to that step without going into the settings and finding a secret security notification that it blocked it from opening
What version are you running? I just tried on Ventura, worked fine on both a .dmg package and some terminal script, both unsigned, and both would need the settings thing if I simply double clicked to open. You still get a prompt, but you have an “open anyways” option.
I’m on the latest version right now, but can’t remember a time I’ve actually installed something on this version. On at least the previous version I believe I had a mix of annoying and the “open anyways” prompt, and then before that just annoyance. I can’t remember exactly what I was installing off the top of my head though, sorry
THIS! I can support apple cutting legacy cruft while designing their products. But the gatekeeping of otherwise functional code you can already observe and cockblock at any time remotely is psychotic.
“no because the dev hasn’t paid us to certify it as safe so you’ll have to jump through 37 hoops in order to allow you to right click, hold options, and click open. THEN we’ll give you an option to install it”
I mean, macOS has a lot of issues but the one hoop needed to run any unsigned app is “right-click app icon, click open”.
Wait, you guys can right click now?
Yeah, shocking you can choose whichever mouse you want and probably have been able to since USB mice became a thing.
Even when apple mice didn’t have two buttons, you could right click via control + click.
I should probably get out more
Sometimes it won’t let you even get to that step without going into the settings and finding a secret security notification that it blocked it from opening
What version are you running? I just tried on Ventura, worked fine on both a .dmg package and some terminal script, both unsigned, and both would need the settings thing if I simply double clicked to open. You still get a prompt, but you have an “open anyways” option.
I’m on the latest version right now, but can’t remember a time I’ve actually installed something on this version. On at least the previous version I believe I had a mix of annoying and the “open anyways” prompt, and then before that just annoyance. I can’t remember exactly what I was installing off the top of my head though, sorry
I guess that is true, yes. I do think it’s generally a good thing that they’re locking down specific permissions like that though.
OMG thanks.
I think I actually knew this at some point but somehow it completely slipped my mind.
THIS! I can support apple cutting legacy cruft while designing their products. But the gatekeeping of otherwise functional code you can already observe and cockblock at any time remotely is psychotic.
Are you still taking about macs? Because that’s Windows.
Is it? The only hoop I can remember jumping through is the (usually) singular UAC popup
Unless you’re Ubisoft and pop up 5-8 of them every time you open Ubisoft connect
Windows will block any software that isn’t popular. Unless the developer pays Microsoft.
I think I’ve seen this before, very rarely though. If I remember correctly you can continue to open it from the popup, right?
“Windows Smartscreen has blocked this app from running”
Yes, you can pull the “more options” thing and run it.
I’ve never seen that, and I’ve been using Windows professionally and personally for…ever.
It’s only a thing if you leave smartscreen on. Think it might also only apply to stuff downloaded through Edge, but don’t quote me on that.