On the earnings call yesterday, they claim (I haven’t seen proof yet) that the chase car has been removed now.
Edit: Just updating with a quote someone transcribed. I thought it was paid rides with no chase car, but reading the actual quote, it sounds like they are claiming it is with nobody in the car and no chase car.
“We were able to do our first rides with no safety monitor in the car in Austin — these are paid rides, so these were just randomly paid rides with no safety monitor, and [umm] maybe as of maybe yesterday or so we actually don’t even have a chase car or anything like that so these are just cars with no people in them and no one’s following the car in Austin.”
The chase car has been removed - but no one’s seen the self-driving cars either, not since the chase car was removed. It’s another intentional misdirection.
I updated my post above with the actual quote after someone transcribed it. He’s saying there’s a car driving around with nobody in it, and no chase car, so not a paid passenger ride.
So I imagine it’s going to be really difficult to get video proof of this if its true, because someone will have to spot a random Tesla driving around without a driver and bother to record it. It’s not like an influencer is going to hail it and be able to video it.
Not gonna lie, when I heard it, it wasn’t as clear that this was the case as when i see it written out.
Saying there’s no chase car anymore isn’t fraud if there’s no chase car anymore. I just haven’t seen any video proof yet of new rides in the past couple days.
They’ve said they’ve removed drivers from inside the taxis, then put them in cars trailing the taxis.
Now they said there’s no chase car anymore, and there isn’t, because they put the drivers back in the taxi again.
Both statements were technically correct, but purposefully misleading to bump the stock by a few billion right before earnings call.
And at no point during all this did Tesla taxis drive autonomously.
I think we gotta give them more than 24h after he says something is now happening to see if it is happening or not?
It’s going to come out soon enough either way.
edit: The call was explicit, no chase cars, no driver in the passenger seat, fully autonomous. And it’s not every car, but a small amount, which really could mean just 1.
So far it seems to be zero, or one of the many Youtubers who’ve been hailing Tesla taxis all day long in order to be the first would have uploaded by now.
You know what, I saw someone transcribe the quote, and I don’t think they were claiming there are passengers in the cars with no chase vehicles
“We were able to do our first rides with no safety monitor in the car in Austin — these are paid rides, so these were just randomly paid rides with no safety monitor, and [umm] maybe as of maybe yesterday or so we actually don’t even have a chase car or anything like that so these are just cars with no people in them and no one’s following the car in Austin.”
these are just cars with no people in them and no one’s following the car in Austin.
So ya we might not get any videos or proof of this statement which makes it useless.
I really don’t care about any of that, what you’re doing is called moving the goal post.
You baselessly claimed they committed fraud on the earnings call by saying something, which we truly don’t know if they did or didn’t yet. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, we’ll find out soon enough.
Edit: Sorry it’s not moving the goal post, it’s a whataboutism. What about that other time.
On the earnings call yesterday, they claim (I haven’t seen proof yet) that the chase car has been removed now.
Edit: Just updating with a quote someone transcribed. I thought it was paid rides with no chase car, but reading the actual quote, it sounds like they are claiming it is with nobody in the car and no chase car.
The chase car has been removed - but no one’s seen the self-driving cars either, not since the chase car was removed. It’s another intentional misdirection.
I updated my post above with the actual quote after someone transcribed it. He’s saying there’s a car driving around with nobody in it, and no chase car, so not a paid passenger ride.
So I imagine it’s going to be really difficult to get video proof of this if its true, because someone will have to spot a random Tesla driving around without a driver and bother to record it. It’s not like an influencer is going to hail it and be able to video it.
Not gonna lie, when I heard it, it wasn’t as clear that this was the case as when i see it written out.
Remember when the SEC used to call this fraud?
Saying there’s no chase car anymore isn’t fraud if there’s no chase car anymore. I just haven’t seen any video proof yet of new rides in the past couple days.
They’ve said they’ve removed drivers from inside the taxis, then put them in cars trailing the taxis.
Now they said there’s no chase car anymore, and there isn’t, because they put the drivers back in the taxi again.
Both statements were technically correct, but purposefully misleading to bump the stock by a few billion right before earnings call.
And at no point during all this did Tesla taxis drive autonomously.
I think we gotta give them more than 24h after he says something is now happening to see if it is happening or not?
It’s going to come out soon enough either way.
edit: The call was explicit, no chase cars, no driver in the passenger seat, fully autonomous. And it’s not every car, but a small amount, which really could mean just 1.
So far it seems to be zero, or one of the many Youtubers who’ve been hailing Tesla taxis all day long in order to be the first would have uploaded by now.
Ya, I would expect a video any day now to confirm this one way or the other. This isn’t a lets wait a month and find out situation.
You know what, I saw someone transcribe the quote, and I don’t think they were claiming there are passengers in the cars with no chase vehicles
So ya we might not get any videos or proof of this statement which makes it useless.
It also fits the pattern of telling technically the truth, while still glossing over the fact that they can’t offer an autonomous taxi service.
Agreed
Remember the Tesla Semi? They had videos transporting either empty boxes or potato chips, literally the least dense cargo possible.
If you have a concern different from the thread, please start another post.
Yes the biggest pilot customer used it to haul lightweight snack items but als yes the claimed fully loaded to the legal limit tests
I really don’t care about any of that, what you’re doing is called moving the goal post.
You baselessly claimed they committed fraud on the earnings call by saying something, which we truly don’t know if they did or didn’t yet. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, we’ll find out soon enough.
Edit: Sorry it’s not moving the goal post, it’s a whataboutism. What about that other time.