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Thx for the post, comments gave me a good laugh
still better than reddit imo; atleast here, they just block you.
… and then turn around to complain that there’s no content while refusing to accept that they’ve effectively blocked most of the content creators in doing so. lol
So I keep hearing stuff about piefed and find myself asking: Why does anyone care? There’s millions of idiots on the internet and thousands on lemmy instances, what makes piefed so special? Half to 2/3 of .world are at the political kids’ table as it is.
Well turns out if you don’t make constant hate posts against platforms like Piefed a bunch of dumb Liberals will believe the Piefed hate posts.
Liberals are in a never ending “Tankie reee” shit slinging contest and they are used to not receiving anything back.
Because the piefed social credit score makes it more difficult to bring the people from the political kids table to the political adult table (those anti-communists basically are recreating reddit to keep the “masses” uneducated)
Spite-posting is cringe
Social Democrats: The Democrats are better than Republicans.
Lemmy Communists: Liberal!!!
Social democratsThe moderate wing of fascism who livein realityon imperial plunder: The Democrats are better than Republicans.
Social democracy literally is a form of liberalism though
By that logic, Hindenburg was “better” than Hitler, but choosing one still got you the other in the end.
You can guarantee yourself Hitler, or you can pragmatically choose Hindenburg and give your country a chance.
Or, maybe, you could actively resist the system that gets you Hitler no matter who you vote for through direct action and organizing?
Yeah, but maybe give yourself more time to do that by, for example, not electing Hitler.
Remind me why the Democrats had the nicknames “Genocide Joe” and “Holocaust Harris”
I’d say Trump isn’t much better, but the Gaza Peace Plan is an improvement over the status quo from before. But the parallels between Trump and Hitler are far stronger than between Biden and Hitler, especially on domestic policy.
I’m not faulting people for not voting in 2024, Trump was more of a wildcard than Biden. Voting Biden in guaranteed a continued genocide but nobody knew what Trump would do.
Trump is an exception to the Republican rule, his foreign policy is very idiosyncratic and his domestic policy is more mask-off (metaphorically, not literally). The Republican party behind him is more uniform in their unconditional support for Israel. The Democrat party is fractured on that front and broadly (though not unanimously) united against the most murderous of Trump’s domestic policies.
Maybe abstaining or voting third-party will incite a communist revolution, I don’t know, but right now more people are dying than would under a Democrat senate majority and I don’t see them being able to make things worse in Gaza (and they’re not really ideologically pro-genocide, they just don’t care as long as they have access to Israeli military bases).
This logic works if you see non-Americans as Untermenschen. But if you don’t then Trumps sheer incompetence is the lesser evil for the world.
Lol. Not beating the historically illiterate accusation
“Voting against the Nazi’s didn’t work for Germans, so let’s just try letting the Nazi’s win from the get-go”
You’re the one arguing to vote for Nazis
Voting against the Nazis didn’t work for Germans, but it will work for us. I need my treats for a small time longer you know
You wouldn’t really be getting more time though. Fascism is capitalism self-preservation response, if you started successfully mass-organizing under Hindenburg, the state would start putting in a lot of the same policies Hitler did later on. You need to act decisively and with enough force to overpower the state. Mind you, it’s not exactly like the means the Nazis seized power was especially legitimate.
there is no way you are this ignorant, there no hope for libs
are you aware of what happened when hindenburg was elected
After skimming wikipedia, yes. I’m also aware of what would’ve happened if Hitler was elected instead.
I’m also aware of what would’ve happened if Hitler as elected instead.
Literally exactly the same thing?
The exact same thing, but faster and with less uncertainty.
You’re acting like the nazis were waiting to be given power legitimately when they in fact abolished any democracy the moment they were able to get away with it. The timeline here wasn’t driven by “can hitler get enough votes to win”, hitler took power however he could (he didn’t win the vote) and abolished voting as soon as he was able. I don’t know why you think that voting against the people who plan to abolish the right to vote will do anything, they literally openly do not respect the practice or the outcomes of votes. Politically, you are staring at the shadows on the wall of Plato’s cave and getting mad at people asking you to actually exit the cave and do something that might have an effect against fascists.
And you “know” that how? A minute ago you literally didn’t know who won the election, now you’re claiming knowledge of alternative realities?
I almost upvoted this because I thought it was a really funny joke. Liberalism is washed.
Communists who are blessed and cursed with pattern recognition: the Democrats and Republicans are part of the same omnicidal capitalist machine, and neither has any interest in changing the increasingly unbearable status quo.
If you want to talk about “reality”, you’ll quickly find yourself ostracized by Democrat supporters. Free Palestine.
The oligarchs who own America are not a monolith, nor is congress. The Democrats and Republicans are in reality, slightly different.
Do you honestly believe “the Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same”. Do you not accept that the abortion policy of the Democrats is better, for example?
The abortion policy of the Democrats is to roll over for the Republicans
When have the Democrats actually defended abortion? They’ve had plenty of opportunities to codify it as a right, but they don’t actually want to do that. Their abortion policy is worse than Republicans because they’re dishonest about wanting to protect it, while the Republicans are honest about being assholes who don’t believe women should have rights.
How anyone attempts to defend North Korea never ceases to blow my mind
There is no propaganda so unbelievable that liberals won’t unquestioningly eat up about the DPRK.
The BBC and other western media rags for years have been posting articles like: “Kim jong un makes people eat shoes now”, and you all just nod your heads in unquestioning assent.
and what do you know about them, aside from all the bullshit propaganda from US?
What do you really know about them, when you can throw out any inconvenient fact about them as “bullshit propaganda from US”? Even China and Russia don’t have friendly relations with North Korea (although that’s started to change).
Maga nazis: you communist liberals just call everyone you disagree with nazis
Liberal nazis: you communist tankies just call everything you don’t agree with US propaganda.
Isn’t it interesting that the “We’re just saying not everyone is a nazi” crowd and the “We’re just saying not everything is US propaganda” crowd have, in practice, adopted the line that “nobody is a nazi” and " nothing is US propaganda", respectively? A neat little trick of projection. It isn’t communists who dismiss “inconvenient facts” as US propaganda, it is in fact anticommunists who uncritically accept convenient US propaganda as “facts”. We see this again and again, with every country the empire targets. If this was 2003, you would be berating us for casting doubt on the very real, totally credible story of Saddam Hussein’s WMD.
Those who learn from this pattern become communists. Those who don’t, stay liberals.
I’m not saying that there is no US propaganda against North Korea and other communist countries. Just that when you are able to dismiss everything as US propaganda you end up as far from the truth as when you blindly accept all US propaganda as true.
The reason I changed my pro-Ukraine stance was not because I debated with pro-Russia zealots on Lemmy. It was because I heard from someone who recognizes that Russia is imperfect and the war unjustified, but that Russia’s concerns were legitimate and that America clearly had a hand in causing it. I still support Ukraine’s territorial integrity BTW, just not anything like the total collapse of the Russian state.
Anyway, an acknowledgement that the North Korean state has real issues of their own making would disprove this. That information is so restricted is evidence of that.
Just that when you are able to dismiss everything as US propaganda
Except communists don’t actually do that, you just reflexively accuse us of doing that when we correctly point out US propaganda. Just like how when liberal point out nazis, maga nazis accuse them of just calling everyone nazis. It’s the exact same dynamic. You can’t give up your self-image of being reasonable, so instead you just pretend that the other person is being unreasonable when you’re met with reasonable pushback
Collectively, I have never heard any Lemmy Communists acknowledge anything negative about the North Korean state at true. Not even once.
Then you’re not looking very hard, and should try asking some good faith questions with an open mind instead of mindlessly repeating lines you’ve been fed. But seeing as you didn’t know who Hindenburg was 15 minutes ago, I have very little faith in your research skills
I notice you just completely ignored Cowbees extremely in depth response.
I stopped reading them after the first 20 or so.
I feel like you lose the right to respond when you don’t bother to read the argument
I can imagine why, it must get frustrating being so comprehensively demolished.
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I remember being like you and thinking it was the most “wacky, crazy, evil” country in the world based on a bunch of YouTube videos, reddit threads and dubiously sourced Cracked listicles. Man, I thought I was so smart.
When you really think about it, why do people in the west even feel the need to have an opinion (especially negative) about the DPRK? All the propaganda is so obviously an attempt to manufacture consent to massacre Koreans again as well as to distract from any problems at home.
I think you answered this actually, it makes them feel smart. The underlying emotional cause is a sense of superiority they get to feel towards the evil eastern “regime” (which is just repackaged colonial racism, in the end), which allows them to feel better about their own lot in life. It’s the white man’s burden.
While I don’t personally uphold them, they’re arguably the easiest of all the “AES” countries to make a case for.
Being anti-Israel long before it was cool even without a dog in the fight is a pretty perfect example #1
