I think they used dirty money for VK and then funded telegram with VK’s forced sellout to the Russian dictatorship, but now they are quite on their own? If I’m wrong, I would really like to dig deeper, maybe you have links to help me?
The founder had to flee Russia for his anti Putin stance.
Telegram wouldn’t be used by Ukrainians and Ukrainian government officials if it was a FSB tool. The Ukrainian government knows better than random forum posters.
In fact, Ukraine has decided to severely restrict Telegram use
“in government agencies, military formations, and critical infrastructure facilities”
Duh. Of course unencrypted government secrets do not belong on 3rd party services. Guess what: Russia doesn’t do that either.
especially because of Russian intelligence having access to data
“Telegram is actively used by the enemy for cyberattacks, spreading phishing and malware” … “Telecommunications companies are constantly subject to cyber attacks by russian hackers.”
Telegram must not be used by certain sectors because it can be attacked. That’s different from the wrong claim that FSB controls Telegram. If that was the case all of Telegram would be forbidden for all of Ukraine and that’s not the case.
The Chief of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine Kyrylo Budanov provided substantiated evidence that russian special services have access to personal correspondence of Telegram users, even deleted messages, as well as their personal data.
Telegram can read all your text mesasges, unless you specifically setup an encrypted one-on-one channel between users that’s tied to a specific device, so basically nobody is using that. It does not have to actively siphon the conversations to a state actor, an exploit chain or the good old infiltration by a rogue employee is enough.
Disclaimer: I use telegram, but have zero expectations of privacy there.
It also wouldn’t be the first time the russian government is using an organization for their own agenda abroad, while banning it in russia.
I think they used dirty money for VK and then funded telegram with VK’s forced sellout to the Russian dictatorship, but now they are quite on their own? If I’m wrong, I would really like to dig deeper, maybe you have links to help me?
The founder had to flee Russia for his anti Putin stance.
Telegram wouldn’t be used by Ukrainians and Ukrainian government officials if it was a FSB tool. The Ukrainian government knows better than random forum posters.
In fact, Ukraine has decided to severely restrict Telegram use, especially because of Russian intelligence having access to data: https://www.rnbo.gov.ua/en/Diialnist/6994.html?hl=en-US
“in government agencies, military formations, and critical infrastructure facilities”
Duh. Of course unencrypted government secrets do not belong on 3rd party services. Guess what: Russia doesn’t do that either.
“Telegram is actively used by the enemy for cyberattacks, spreading phishing and malware” … “Telecommunications companies are constantly subject to cyber attacks by russian hackers.”
Telegram must not be used by certain sectors because it can be attacked. That’s different from the wrong claim that FSB controls Telegram. If that was the case all of Telegram would be forbidden for all of Ukraine and that’s not the case.
Having hacked Telegram servers on occasion is not the same as being in charge of Telegram. These are just different things.
I mean, he was also arrested by French authorities. The guy seems to be quite fishy to say the least.
Macron? Yes.
Telegram can read all your text mesasges, unless you specifically setup an encrypted one-on-one channel between users that’s tied to a specific device, so basically nobody is using that. It does not have to actively siphon the conversations to a state actor, an exploit chain or the good old infiltration by a rogue employee is enough.
Disclaimer: I use telegram, but have zero expectations of privacy there.
It also wouldn’t be the first time the russian government is using an organization for their own agenda abroad, while banning it in russia.
I’m not claiming that Telegram is perfection, I’m disputing the wild claim that Telegram is a FSB tool just because the founder is Russian.