• SalamenceFury@piefed.social
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    You are supposed to use your muzzle if you need to use your gun as a melee weapon. That’s why bayonets exist.

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      No. You buttstrike someone if you have no bayonet. Striking someone with the barrel is dumb because youre at least gonna fuck up your zero and you might bend the barrel which could cause a rapid unscheduled disassembly of your rifle when you fire it.

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        Military and police training literally say that if you need to melee with your gun you use a muzzle strike - it’s usually reserved for someone who’s actively trying to grab your gun by the barrel and you don’t actually feel like using lethal force. Using a muzzle strike against a fleshy target won’t do anything to the gun’s zero or ability to fire, you don’t do it on a hard surface like glass. Hitting someone with your stock might actually break the gun if the recoil spring goes through it.

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          I remember my bayonet class from my time in the army. We were never taught any such thing. We were actively discouraged from hitting things with our muzzle.

          What is your experience with rifle combat? Because mine is practical application in iraq.

          Edit: lol love the block because you got called out. Next time don’t spout off stuff you don’t know about. And maybe don’t accuse people of being war criminals just because you’re mad about being called out for being wrong.

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            8 hours ago

            Mods deleted my previous reply, so I’ll say it agaun: war criminal scum.

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              You’re just going to insult someone for making a reasoned, informed reply to a comment?

              There are many reasons someone might join the armed forces, and whether or not you are a conscientious objector, you might consider thinking before calling someone a war criminal without knowing what they actually did during their time in the military. Plenty of people went into combat zones without committing any war crimes.

              Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.

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            1 day ago

            Against women and children, I suppose?

            Either way, it’s been a thing for a while now. Buttstriking is not something you do with a long gun.

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                13 hours ago

                I don’t tend to take seriously people who went to become peons for the war on terror and don’t regret it.

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                  How do you know they don’t regret it? Because they don’t whimper on every comment ‘Oh it was terrible and I wish I had never joined the armed forces’ every time they write about their time there? Don’t presume. Also, ad hominem attacks are dumb and you shouldn’t use them.