Sept. 30 (UPI) – Elon Musk is under fire after publicly backing a far-right political party in Germany, suggesting the current government should not be re-elected over its position on the current migrant crisis in Europe.
Elon Musk is a South African who lives and operates in the US. Why tf is he trying chiming in about any German electoral process?
How about Apartheid Clyde stays in his lane.
He’s building a Tesla factory in Germany. So that might be why. Also it’s not just a right wing party, but the most extreme right wing party in Germany that isn’t forbidden yet.
Wait he hasn’t finished building it and it’s already suffering daily casualties? Yikes.
The fact that this gets media coverage like it even remotely matters is madness. Will there be media coverage of my posts on the topic, since it’s suddenly world news when a private American citizen comments on what is happening in another country…
Because it does matter, motherfucker has millions of people listening to him and a worldwide social media that he controls. Even if his opinions are trash, he amplifies and spreads this garbage, and gives a platform for the scum of the earth who wouldn’t have it otherwise.
Fucking Henry Ford of our age.
This isn’t Tom the small business accountant from rural Ohio commenting on Germany’s immigration policy on a facebook post. It’s someone who controls more money than the GDP of multiple entire countries, and who has already shown an interest in using his companies to influence geo-politics based on his opinions in the moment.
If anything, you should be concerned that a single individual can make choices about global politics without discussion or legal safety guards - which has historically caused some issues in the place that the AfD comes from.
To be fair, this is a private American citizen with close enough ties to far right politicians he hosted the campaign launch of one, who’s whim personally controls a major space launch provider and a site that sets the terms of public conversation and normality for a terrifying large number of people, and ohh ya, in an economic system based around the idea that the person with the most capital gets to decide what to do , well he has the most capital.
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He’s a Nazi and he supports Nazi’s
Nazis. You don’t need an apostrophe to make something plural.
I wish the news would just pretend he doesn’t exist. I’m so tired of him.
Elon Musk is starting to go so far off the deepend that we may need to call in Britney Spears dad to take conservertership of him.
I’m trying my damndest to ignore Musk. I invite you all to join me
Does ignoring influential fascists make them stop trying to increase their influence? Or make them stop being fascists?
Maybe we should ask Neville Chamberlain how well that works?
Many of the worlds problems have happened because people ignored them till it was too late
Dude just admit his a nazi? Or the far right in Germany is not what I think it is. Not familiar with the party structure there.
He’s been cheering for nazis for ages by now. Doesn’t that make him a nazi?
They’re against immigration, Islam, refugees, gender equality, gay marriage, and Kosher food. They want the German army to bring back conscription.
They’re fucking Nazis.
He’s endorsing Nazis.
He’s a Nazi.
Perhaps the bigger news is that far right in Germany is on track to become the biggest political bloc in the country.
Russia, China and the Republicans have been propping European far right parties for the past x decades, and now the recessions and the wars are generating easy support for the populists
Ah yes, because that doesn’t happen on its own.
Russia and China don’t have to do shit when Europe’s greatest ally is as right-wing as it it’s been. In fact, there’s even a group for this: the International Democrat Union.
Would the Russia and China far right connections and actions then be happenstance in that hypothesis scenario and how could they be explained to be unrelated?
Russia and China are irrelevant because their interests in Western economies are tertiary at best: it neither affects them ideologically nor economically.
Whether Western governments buy Russian oil is entirely independent of what government it is. Whether Western governments buy Chinese manufactured products is entirely independent of what government it is. There’s this puffed up sense of Western self-importance that doesn’t really exist: Russia and China both see that the future of global economic growth will be in the Global South and are allocating resources appropriately.
In contrast, the International Democratic Union (and similar organizations) have a strong ideological reason for backing right-wing parties and a stronger personal reason to do so: it nets them more funding from corrupt corporations looking for tax breaks and decreased regulation.
I like your pondering.
I have some notes with this theory
There’s this puffed up sense of Western self-importance that doesn’t really exist: Russia and China both see that the future of global economic growth will be in the Global South and are allocating resources appropriately.
In addition to each northern superpower abusing the hemisphere, they do fight for influence between the northern smaller ones – the aforementioned propping of accelerationist and/or reactionary movements being one way amoug the trade ones you focused on.
IDU is a good example, while it seems to be just one path to the efforts
What’s the purpose, though? China and Russia hardly need to touch it, because it’s the direction that US money is flowing anyway.
What actually resulted in far right becoming a serious force in Europe was the economic war with Russia. These parties have been fringe for decades, and now they’re polling high in most European countries.
The right took a stance against the war from the very start, while the left shat the bed by siding with the liberals. Now that support for the war is collapsing people are moving to the right.
It’s the final straw (at this moment in time) yes for a situation which has been brewed for a much longer time
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The right took a stance against the war from the very start
This relates more to the moderate right. The far right was openly supporting Russia and against sanctions even after the Crimean invasion. Only after 2022 mobilization they’ve started to hide this
As the economy is once again in shambles thanks to how capitalism works, the voters are easy pickings for those with empty promises
Openly supporting Russia is becoming increasingly popular in Europe https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1815302/EU-split-eastern-europe-closer-to-Russia-Ukraine-war
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Yes. It’s a multi-pronged effort. Ops like these really take advantage of working classes in hardship everywhere
The hardships that the working class is suffering are direct result of the policies European governments pursued over the past two years.
USA, Ukraine, Israel, Italy and certain NATO countries have been propping up far right culture across the world. Russia and China are just boogeymen for useful idiots to scream about.
Far right factions in USA support Russia only because of the anti-LGBT social alignment, and not because Russia’s politics is far right. Russia is pretty much in alignment with socialist goals geopolitically and inside their country on the social axis (ban on Nazi elements).
Lol @ “ban on Nazis”
Russia doesn’t care about Nazis.
“Nazi Winnie the Pooh banned in Russia”
Yes, seems that they’re taking it very seriously and not just calling shit they don’t like “Nazi”. Considering this is the country that cheers on the Wagner-group, a neonazi extremist mercenary group led by open fascists and literally named after Hitler’s favourite composer (as stated by Wagner’s founder), I’m sure that they’re taking the fight against Nazism very seriously and won’t ever abuse it for propaganda reasons.
I am sure that your username is not a parody, and that you have taken things into account like:
- “western expansion” of NATO and disregard for Russia’s national security
- NATO breaking Warsaw Pact in 90s
- US ex-VP Dick Cheney stating NATO’s goals are to balkanise Russia
- how CIA implanted a colour revolution in the form of 2003 Orange protests in Ukraine
- then in 2013 with Euromaidan CIA coup
- the leaked Nuland-Pyatt call
- the famous lecture by Chicago University’s John Mearsheimer
- the murder of over 14,000 people in Donbass from 2014 upto 2022 start of conflict
and so on.
People like you are the same brainwormed zombies that scream “doing X thing means same, moral and intent do not matter”.
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Unlike Zelensky, Putin has not banned all opposition political parties. Tells you who behaves like NSDAP in 2023. If you think Putin is an orthodox Christian fashie, wait till you meet Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau and most western governments’ heads that actually sleep in bed with church. Putin and Russia do not exactly work the way christofascist western totalitarian dictatorships, with a “neoliberal democracy” mask, do.
Italy and Ukraine are on the receiving side of the propping. Israel is a good mention but probably a lesser participant than the big three (the US does most of the dirty work for them).
In addition to supporting culturally reactionary and discriminatory governments, the far right fawns over the totalitarian strong-man geopolitics.
And as it is known, it’s convenient for Russia to build fascist-aligned support in their targets to have a casus belli for their internal audience. All while following fascist doctrines themselves
Ukraine literally has a far right Nazi government and far right Nazi troops. Zelensky worships and salutes historical Nazi people both in Ukraine and recently with Canada in UN. Italy elected a neofascist party in power. They are on the giver side, not receiver side.
Russia’s goals are in line with USSR, which, if history serves me correctly, was the opposite of fascist. You are spreading an obvious agenda that flips history.
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Can you describe these ways using a proper analysis with historical accuracy and taking into account things like NATO breaking Warsaw Pact in the 90s?
Last I checked it’s the US that’s been doing the exact same thing as nazis since WW2 https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
And what was the path which made that possible in Ukraine and Italy? They didn’t fall to fascist populists while being a power which strengthens fascist populists globally. It’s hard to see what kind of 4D chess would make Ukraine create fascist minded separatists to be conquered and then fight them with neonazi militia.
The USSR was quite aligned with their own take on fascism. That’s history.
And what was the path which made that possible in Ukraine and Italy? They didn’t fall to fascist populists
Italy elected a neofascist girlboss as PM themselves.
As for Ukraine, refer to the leaked call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt. You will know how democratic and sovereign USA wanted Ukraine to be.
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Fuck Nazis. Especially billionaire Nazis.
this guy’s a threat
He’s fucking with fish that are way bigger than him.
This is absolutely wrong. He is the big fish in this Capitalist planet. But besides, the fact that he is supporting one of Germany’s legal and legitimate political parties in their ostensible democracy is absolutely not something that anyone anywhere should be afraid of doing.
He only wants a political party that will side with his delusions. Unfortunately his delusions sided with nazis.
No, you see, HE isn’t a Nazi, he just happens to agree with everything Nazis say.
Twitter is so easy for people to get off of. But they won’t.
Now, if any companies could give any serious competition in the US to SpaceX (launch or Starlink) and Tesla, that would be phenomenal.
Space travel isn’t profitable. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, of course, but the way it works is that pieces of shit like musk wedge themselves in the space and then like a leech start siphoning public funding from NASA just because idiot or senile senators would rather allocate more money to private industry then fund a public good. So SpaceX get’s subsidized, and NASA gets privatized.
Regarding the profitability - spaceflight isn’t profitable yet. Some companies are trying to do manufacturing and mining that could be profitable in the future, especially if launch costs keep dropping. Moving heavy industry off planet seems like a good goal to me. That’s also ignoring different imaging and communications companies that are doing alright.
Regarding privatization - NASA has contacted out services from their literal beginning in the Mercury program. Contracting out basic/boring launch makes sense to me and lets them focus on bigger ideas. I don’t really think SpaceX is “subsidized” vs winning contracts to deliver hardware and provide services, especially when you compare to their competition for programs like ISS commercial crew/cargo and Artemis human landing system, where their direct competitors (Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Blue Origin, etc) are more expensive.
My big gripe is that no one else has launch capacity right now, so SpaceX has no pressure to get cheaper and companies don’t have a choice. Ariane 5 retired, Atlas V is booked out, and Vulcan, Ariane 6, New Glenn, Neutron, Terran R, etc. are not flying yet.
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It doesn’t matter how much money he has - every time I visualize Musk posting to Twitter, I see him as a teenage edgelord in a shabby suburban tract house, hunched over an off-the-shelf desktop PC in a room with green shag carpeting and fake wood paneling, lit only by the glow from the screen, giggling to himself.
He can make them angry, but they’re still gonna suck his dick for a Tesla plant, and kiss his ass for his political contribution.
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Which part of Sweden do you live in?
You don’t need to live in Sweden to be aware of the significant issues they’re having with gang violence and it’s not native Swedes these gangs are made of. I live in Finland and Yle, which is the Finnish equivalence of BBC makes news about this weekly and they’re by no means a site known to spread right wing propaganda so I don’t see a reason to assume any bias there.
Finnish equivalence of BBC makes news about this weekly and they’re by no means a site known to spread right wing propaganda
Who told you the BBC doesn’t spread right wing propaganda?! 😅
You’re right. It’s probably all just lies and right wing propaganda and there’s no real issues with immigrants there what so ever. I mean if the news says something I don’t like it must be false, right?
What the fuck are you doing on Lemmy, go away.
