• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    It uses a completely different paradigm of process chaining and management than POSIX and the underlying Unix architecture.

    That’s not to say it’s bad, just a different design. It’s actually very similar to what Apple did with OS X.

    On the plus side, it’s much easier to understand from a security model perspective, but it breaks some of the underlying assumptions about how scheduling and running processes works on Linux.

    So: more elegant in itself, but an ugly wart on the overall systems architecture design.

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      14 days ago

      It uses a completely different paradigm of process chaining and management than POSIX and the underlying Unix architecture.

      I think that’s exactly it for most people. The socket, mount, timer unit files; the path/socket activations; the After=, Wants=, Requires= dependency graph, and the overall architecture as a more unified ‘event’ manager are what feels really different than most everything else in the Linux world.

      That coupled with the ini-style VerboseConfigurationNamesForThatOneThing and the binary journals made me choose a non-systemd distro for personal use - where I can tinker around and it all feels nice and unix-y. On the other hand I am really thankful to have systemd in the server space and for professional work.

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        14 days ago

        I’ve started doing podman quadlets recently, and the ini config style is ugly as hell compared to yaml (even lol) in docker compose. The benefits outweigh that though imho.

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          I agree that quadlets are pretty ugly but I’m not sure that’s the ini style’s fault. In general I find yaml incredibly frustrating to understand, but toml/ini style is pretty fluent to me. Maybe just a preference, IDK.

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      13 days ago

      On the plus side, it’s much easier to understand from a security model perspective

      Lol, no. Way more code in Systemd. Also more CVE per year than in some bad (now dead) init/svc’ lifetime.