Since General Francis Donovan took over, deadly boat bombings in the Caribbean have escalated, with 150 deaths and counting. The Trump administration's secret attacks on alleged drug traffickers violate international law.
EXACTLY. People in the USA need to stop thinking their country was angelic until Trump came along. It’s always been a murderous menace since before its founding. Latin America is an excellent example of this, though sadly, not the only one.
The trend line has been clear for a long long time. That country is a cancer on the world. Patriots can get touchy about it, and they will because patriots don’t tend to be all that bright in general, but their feelings aren’t worth as much as the world’s blood.
People in the USA need to know what their country truly stands for, and has always stood for—domination.
Curious about the sourcing on number 8 there. The Wikipedia article on his removal states that the US supported the results of the election and condemned his removal and the coup overall. Once Zelaya was removed, Secretary of State Clinton tried to capitalize on the situation to strengthen Homduras’ dependency on US aid. I’d say that falls in a morally gray area, but it’s a far cry from an actual US backed coup.
NGL, I originally started looking into this infographic because basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration except that one.
Okay? The problems highlighted in the infographic have nothing to do with how much military spending was approved, and everything to do with when and more specifically, where it was used.
Would you be mad at republicans for approving more social service funding if Biden spent that money giving bailouts to corporations for “daycare”? (Purely hypothetical situation here)
So what are you saying? That American Imperialism is not the fault of America, but the fault of Republicans? Quite a convenient way to absolve yourself.
My main point is that American Imperialism, especially in Latin America, enjoys bipartisan support.
My main point is that historically, there has been one particular political group in the United States which consistently does the worst shit possible to the rest of the world. Not saying they’ve never done anything good, not saying that they are the only group that has ever done bad shit. I am saying that it’s a pretty big stretch to say “both sides are the same, just look at this map” and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group, and the 1 example by the other group is disinfo/misinfo. I think it brings serious question into the validity of saying “both sides are the same” and the validity of the document overall.
Also, map was hard to read at a glance, when I said #8, I was referring to Honduras. I thought the numbers were a key of some sort, not a count of military interventions.
and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group
Why are you focusing on who was president?
The claim was: American Imperialism enjoys bipartisan support
Your counterpoint was: that cant be true because some of these examples were during republican POTUS.
That doesn’t mean anything. American Imperialism can still enjoy bipartisan support, even if the president is a republican.
Take the DR in 1965, for example. LBJ was president, but his call to war was answered emphatically by both Democrats AND Republicans in the name of anticommunism. Do you seriously think that the fact that LBJ was president disproves that this meddling enjoyed bipartisan support?
B-Both sides same!
Regarding meddling in Latin America?
Correct.
EXACTLY. People in the USA need to stop thinking their country was angelic until Trump came along. It’s always been a murderous menace since before its founding. Latin America is an excellent example of this, though sadly, not the only one.
The trend line has been clear for a long long time. That country is a cancer on the world. Patriots can get touchy about it, and they will because patriots don’t tend to be all that bright in general, but their feelings aren’t worth as much as the world’s blood.
People in the USA need to know what their country truly stands for, and has always stood for—domination.
Curious about the sourcing on number 8 there. The Wikipedia article on his removal states that the US supported the results of the election and condemned his removal and the coup overall. Once Zelaya was removed, Secretary of State Clinton tried to capitalize on the situation to strengthen Homduras’ dependency on US aid. I’d say that falls in a morally gray area, but it’s a far cry from an actual US backed coup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d'état
NGL, I originally started looking into this infographic because basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration except that one.
Using military money that was allocated in the preceding year by democrats.
Okay? The problems highlighted in the infographic have nothing to do with how much military spending was approved, and everything to do with when and more specifically, where it was used.
Would you be mad at republicans for approving more social service funding if Biden spent that money giving bailouts to corporations for “daycare”? (Purely hypothetical situation here)
So what are you saying? That American Imperialism is not the fault of America, but the fault of Republicans? Quite a convenient way to absolve yourself.
My main point is that American Imperialism, especially in Latin America, enjoys bipartisan support.
My main point is that historically, there has been one particular political group in the United States which consistently does the worst shit possible to the rest of the world. Not saying they’ve never done anything good, not saying that they are the only group that has ever done bad shit. I am saying that it’s a pretty big stretch to say “both sides are the same, just look at this map” and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group, and the 1 example by the other group is disinfo/misinfo. I think it brings serious question into the validity of saying “both sides are the same” and the validity of the document overall.
Also, map was hard to read at a glance, when I said #8, I was referring to Honduras. I thought the numbers were a key of some sort, not a count of military interventions.
Both sides aren’t the same.
They are both corrupt, anti-labor, and pro-capital though (in USA).
They’re both so corrupt that they have legalized corruption. Bribery is blatant and open
Why are you focusing on who was president?
The claim was: American Imperialism enjoys bipartisan support
Your counterpoint was: that cant be true because some of these examples were during republican POTUS.
That doesn’t mean anything. American Imperialism can still enjoy bipartisan support, even if the president is a republican.
Take the DR in 1965, for example. LBJ was president, but his call to war was answered emphatically by both Democrats AND Republicans in the name of anticommunism. Do you seriously think that the fact that LBJ was president disproves that this meddling enjoyed bipartisan support?
Exhibit B.