• Tanis Nikana@lemmy.world
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    I’m banned from Idaho, Kansas, Florida, and Texas.

    I’m illegal in seventy-two countries.

    I’ve hurt no one.

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      I’ve hurt no one.

      That’s the problem. There’s a lot people who deserves being hurt. As long as we tolerate them, they won’t tolerate us

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    An identifying document should reflect the current physical identity of a person, else it is useless.

    It is meant to identify a person, nothing more, nothing less.

    As for where the line is drawn for when changing the gender on the document, I don’t know what would be appropriate. Demanding a that a person strips down naked to identify them is ridiculous.

    So then perhaps gender labels should be left off of identifying documents, we could rely on iris scanning or DNA, stuff that doesn’t change and is unique.

    Frankly, I am in no way qualified to define this, my main point is that an identifying document needs to identify a person as they are today, not how they were born.

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        I can see the problem with that, yes, I just tried to figure out a quick and verifiable way to verify IDs if gender is out.

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          You’d have to start by trying to figure out a quick and verifiable definition of gender. The problem comes when it’s not as binary or final as you may think

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      There was one thing I didn’t already know. This is also a bathroom law that relies on citizens to enforce.

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        So they’re going to be reporting any cis women that look vaguely non-feminine.

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          Yes this is a witch hunt with the possibility of a $1000 reward, so the zealots will be all in.

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            Seems like a bunch of lawsuits waiting to happen. You know one of these toolbags is gonna point at a cis woman with a double mastectomy and baldness from chemo and be like “that’s a man!” Seems like she’d have a good case.

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      So how exactly is this clickbait? It’s not clickbait when it’s true.
      There are mentioned several items in the article that makes the law worse. Than “just” requiring the gender at birth to be stated on your drivers license.

      For starters it has immediate effect with no grace period, making it impossible to get a new license in time.
      Second it also invalidates birth certificates, which will make it impossible to get a new drivers license, until you have the birth certificate too.
      Third, isn’t this little tidbit nice?:

      drivers will be “subject to additional penalties” if they are caught operating a vehicle with their current ID.

      Finally, and this is decidedly a witch-hunt:

      And IDs make up just one part of the law, which poses sweeping restrictions on trans Kansans’ access to public spaces. As of Thursday, any “multiple-occupancy private space” must be segregated by gender assigned at birth, including restrooms, hospital rooms, dormitories, locker rooms, and more. The law will be enforced by bounty-hunter lawsuits: Anyone who believes they were in a bathroom with someone who was given a different gender at birth can sue for damages of at least $1,000

      These things considered,

      How the fuck is that headline clickbait?

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        It’s clickbait because it doesn’t say the important part in the headline. Forcing you to click the article to know what the fuck they’re talking about. It’s a dick way to operate even if it doesn’t fall under the exact definition.

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          Yes that can be the case, but in this situation there are multiple reasons why it’s worse, and mentioning some would make the content of the article seem as less than it really has, and mentioning all would make an excessively long headline.

          You also have to be realistic, and not call something clickbait that really isn’t.
          I agree that 9 times out of 10,such a headline is likely to be clickbait. but in this case there is actually a good reason for the headline.

          However It should have said THESE details and not just “this detail”. That mistake is probably mostly what makes it look like a run of the mill clickbait headline. Stupid mistake?

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        Does clickbait have to be misleading? I have always considered anything phrased so as to compel you to read further by omitting the crux of the article to be clickbait, so this would absolutely fall under that. An article with a headline like “never do this while tanning!” that’s about the dangers of citric acid on your skin in the sunlight is a useful, true article with a clickbait title, as another example.

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    How far to the extreme are they gonna take this “License only as you were born” shit?

    Start getting gray hair? Thats not the hair color you were born with, immediate license revocation.

    Amputation? Scars? You werent born with those, immediate license revocation.

    Hair color was blond at birth, but now is brown? Oh you better believe thats a revocation.

    All cause a bunch of sexually repressed bigots cant handle being attracted certain people.

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    By deliberate identification by humiliation, this is clearly a civil rights violation. The bastards want them evicted.

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    While this is mostly about voter disenfranchising, I doubt a new driver’s license will be “believed” for any purpose including voting, if it doesn’t look like them.

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    Paywall?
    But apparently that’s random, because on 2nd try it complained about my ad-blocker instead and I could continue to read the entire article?