cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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    21 minutes ago

    Avoiding Chinese companies is a factor for me, BUT if the choice is between a Chinese company that wouldn’t comply with a five-eyes data request vs one that would, then I would definitely prefer my data be stolen by a foreign country that doesn’t see me as a sovereign risk

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    Let’s hope the growth means the software improves. I’ve never owned such a buggy phone. I would never be able to recommend anyone I know actually buy one and it’s pretty difficult to keep using it myself. I’m really hoping the upcoming Android 16 release fixes a lot of bugs but if past Fairphones are anything to go by I’m not expecting much.

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      I’ve been using a FP6 for over a month and I have no idea what you could be referring to

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        Sometimes after using the camera, the taken photos will just disappear.

        Often my screen will freeze up and the ohone becomes entirely unresponsive until I turn the screen off and on again.

        Sometimes the screen won’t even turn on at all and will then suddenly unlock and register every single swipe and tap I made on the off screen registers at once.

        Then sometimes when idle the phone will just randomly crash and reboot.

        A genuinely awful experience I have to say.

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      2 hours ago

      Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

      SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

      Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

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      On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.

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      5 hours ago

      I mean the downsides are it’s Linux. That’s not without it’s upsides but the downsides are huge.

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        5 hours ago

        Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don’t play nice? I 100% don’t know what the downsides would be.

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          From my research, the phone part of the “phone” doesn’t work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

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            I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect…

            It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

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                Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

                Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

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          It also isn’t as performant for the price, or so I’ve heard. They’re working on it, but it isn’t up to par with big name companies.

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            What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven’t come across anything my phone couldn’t run in over a decade. I haven’t had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?