• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Im gonna say it, I’m sick and tired of hearing people talk about “evil Chinese authoritarian social credit system” when its inherently a good system that works. In the west when a corporation commits mass fraud and abuse they pay a minimal fine (sometimes they don’t even pay) and then they literally just get away with it. Chinas social credit system on the other hand actually holds businesses accountable.

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      8 hours ago

      I’m willing to say I’m not happy with either system. Corporations should pay and be held accountable but citizens should have a right to privacy and not have the sum of their actions turned into a number.

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        1 hour ago

        You should be happy to know then that the social credit score only applies to corporations and individuals who do business with the government as contractors, it doesn’t apply to private life and doesn’t make anything illegal that wasn’t already legally punishable (even then minor crimes aren’t covered).

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        Corporations should pay and be held accountable

        No. The board and the directors should be personally responsible, and should be punished in addition to the corporation paying money at the minimum.

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        2 hours ago

        Yeah the made up system that doesn’t exist in the real world is really fucking scary OMG.

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        citizens should have a right to privacy and not have the sum of their actions turned into a number.

        That “number” isn’t real. China does not have a single nationwide “social credit score” that rates every citizen.

        What actually exists is a set of legal blacklists, the most famous being the court judgment defaulter list (失信被执行人). It applies to people who refuse to comply with a court decision, usually things like unpaid debts.

        If you ignore a court order, the court can place you under a high-consumption restriction (限制高消费). That means you can’t spend money on certain luxury services (first-class train tickets, flights, five-star hotels, or other high-end purchases) until you comply with the judgment.

        You can still travel normally, stay in regular hotels, work, shop, and live your life. The restriction is specifically designed to stop people who refuse to obey court rulings from enjoying luxury spending while ignoring their legal obligations.

        The popular idea in the west that everyone in China has a constantly changing personal “score” based on everyday behavior is simply western fantasy.